awful knawful Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Woodtick said: Not in the mid west. You had to put the money down,then they would ship them. Ok They were supposed to be at certain dealerships that Friday. Doo was encouraging dealers to use as demos but could sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Mainecat said: Useless yes your family has been saying that behind your back for some time now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 It’s useful to maybe 20% of the sled market. You need private landowners in many places to ok access. It seems this year everyone in Maine thinks they can go off trails with their sleds. That’s led to problems from landowners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Skidooski said: Light weight factory 2 stroke turbo for sea level to much of a pita to have to haul around race gas and most people are to cheep to be buying all that race gas any way . if they could make it run reliably with 91 at sea they would have had a tune in it already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: to much of a pita to have to haul around race gas and most people are to cheep to be buying all that race gas any way . if they could make it run reliably with 91 at sea they would have had a tune in it already You think there is some.magic difference between sea level and altitude? Take a little compression and some timing out of the map and you could run 200hp on pump gas all day with an 850 at sea level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The real problem with 2stroke turbos for the masses is EPA compliance. They have to run down in the 11:1 range afr at wfo and the 2 stroke are probably pretty dirty there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: to much of a pita to have to haul around race gas and most people are to cheep to be buying all that race gas any way . if they could make it run reliably with 91 at sea they would have had a tune in it already You might not have a full grasp of how forced induction works. Race gas isn't always a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, AKIQPilot said: You might not have a full grasp of how forced induction works. Race gas isn't always a requirement. He has zero grasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: The real problem with 2stroke turbos for the masses is EPA compliance. They have to run down in the 11:1 range afr at wfo and the 2 stroke are probably pretty dirty there. Yep. And snowmobilers will shit on the sport if the manufacturers start putting catalytic converters on their 2 strokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 How much? $22,000...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Yep. And snowmobilers will shit on the sport if the manufacturers start putting catalytic converters on their 2 strokes. I would bet skidoo could make the etec compliant as a turbo. With DI and extremely precise fuel and timing control they could run a bit leaner but Engine quality control would have to be tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I would bet skidoo could make the etec compliant as a turbo. With DI and extremely precise fuel and timing control they could run a bit leaner but Engine quality control would have to be tight. Im sure they could too. This is just the beginning of factory turbo 2 strokes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: You might not have a full grasp of how forced induction works. Race gas isn't always a requirement. to make a boosted 2 st worth the time and expence it sort of is . yeah you can lower compression and run low boost but would the performance be what a guy who just spent 5 more g on over the same NA be content with ? prob not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Mainecat said: It’s useful to maybe 20% of the sled market. You need private landowners in many places to ok access. It seems this year everyone in Maine thinks they can go off trails with their sleds. That’s led to problems from landowners. western sales are more and more important every year to these companies. #1 individual model sold last year was the RMK 163 according to polaris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Race gas? Clutching? Ain't nobody got time for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Looked at an exact one today at the local Doo/Poo dealer, even the dealerships owner said "that's one ugly sled" and I have to agree..wonder why they had a Mountain sled here??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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