Pete Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Detained children made artwork to remind them of their homelands while in US custody CNN)There is a legend in Guatemala that the quetzal, the national bird, will die of sorrow if it's put in a cage. When teens detained at Tornillo, a tent shelter for migrant children in Texas that closed following safety concerns, were asked to make artwork to remind them of their home communities, one drew the Guatemalan bird -- a symbol of yearning for freedom and a reminder of a time before confinement. The quetzal cannot be caged, the child told teachers working at Tornillo. That drawing and other artwork made by migrant teenagers detained at Tornillo have inspired an "Uncaged Art" exhibit at the Centennial Museum of the University Texas at El Paso (UTEP). The exhibit showcases artwork by children aged 13-17 from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and other Latin American nations that was made during a multiday art project designed to uplift the children and remind them of their homelands. "These children created beautiful artwork in undesirable conditions," museum director Daniel Carey-Whalen told CNN. "There are moments when we see the children's hopes and dreams, but also see they're really sad and constricted." Workers began discarding the artwork when the US government decided to close the tent encampment in January, according to the museum. But the art was preserved thanks to a local youth pastor who ensured it ended up in the hands of UTEP and El Paso's Museo Urbano, a museum that preserves borderland history. "We just want people to know that this happened. This is still happening. We're incarcerating children," Carey-Whalen said. "And we can try to sympathize with these children." <img alt="The quetzal bird cannot be caged, one migrant child told social studies teachers working at Tornillo." class="media__image" src="//cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190717095617-01-museum-detained-children-exhibit-large-169.jpg"> The quetzal bird cannot be caged, one migrant child told social studies teachers working at Tornillo. As visitors first walk into the exhibit, the lighting is dim and they're asked to step through a re-creation of a Tornillo tent. When they reach the artwork, which features bright colors and comforting depictions of parks, towns and animals, the room is illuminated. Despite the uplifting themes in the artwork, Carey-Whalen said many visitors leave the museum saying they experienced tinges of the sadness and the visceral feeling of confinement. At the exhibit opening, curators asked a 17-year-old migrant who was detained at Tornillo to speak. "The young man -- we couldn't use his name -- but he said, 'When I see this art, I can see the pain, and I'm reminded of this pain,' " the museum director said. Tornillo housed nearly 3,000 minors at its peak -- primarily children who arrived unaccompanied at the border with Mexico, including some who were detained as part of the Trump administration's family separation practice. Following Health and Human Services reports of "serious safety and health vulnerabilities," the camp was closed in January and minors were placed with vetted sponsors. <img alt="The exhibit at UTEP&amp;#39;s Centennial Museum in El Paso will be on display through October." class="media__image" src="//cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190717100329-04-museum-detained-children-exhibit-large-169.jpg"> The exhibit at UTEP's Centennial Museum in El Paso will be on display through October. In conjunction with the children's artwork that will be displayed until October, the museum opened an exhibit on US intervention in Latin America, curated by history students at UTEP. "We just need more awareness and more conversation about what's happening here at the border," Carey-Whalen said. https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/us/museum-detained-children-artwork-trnd/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I believe the number was - over 17,000 murders in Mexico this year so far. Sure - let's leave the border open for these animals to flood in ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pete said: In conjunction with the children's artwork that will be displayed until October, the museum opened an exhibit on US intervention in Latin America, curated by history students at UTEP. "We just need more awareness and more conversation about what's happening here at the border," Carey-Whalen said. our polices in latin america have fucked up just about every country there at one point or another so we do bring some of this on ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, Angry ginger said: our polices in latin america have fucked up just about every country there at one point or another so we do bring some of this on ourselves. Oh boy...you just made the list!!!!!!!🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, ford_428cj said: I believe the number was - over 17,000 murders in Mexico this year so far. Sure - let's leave the border open for these animals to flood in ... That's like the murder rate in Detroit in the 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, ford_428cj said: I believe the number was - over 17,000 murders in Mexico this year so far. Sure - let's leave the border open for these animals to flood in ... most of the murders are cartel related, those are not the peopel escaping over the border they have control of territory why would they want to give it up to come to America. No different than the murders in Chicago, you don't see the gang bangers leaving their turf to move to Iowa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: our polices in latin america have fucked up just about every country there at one point or another so we do bring some of this on ourselves. You sound like that idiot snacks - as he said the same. When asked - he brought up something from the 1950's as an example ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Oh boy...you just made the list!!!!!!!🤣 anyone who thinks out foreign policies disasters have not effected other countries are retards so IDGAF about their list. Hindsight has shown far more failure than success you would think at some point we would learn from it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, Momorider said: That's like the murder rate in Detroit in the 70's Life is cheap down there ... Just now, Angry ginger said: most of the murders are cartel related, those are not the peopel escaping over the border they have control of territory why would they want to give it up to come to America. No different than the murders in Chicago, you don't see the gang bangers leaving their turf to move to Iowa They will set up new territory here - already have in some areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: You sound like that idiot snacks - as he said the same. When asked - he brought up something from the 1950's as an example ... 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: anyone who thinks out foreign policies disasters have not effected other countries are retards so IDGAF about their list. Hindsight has shown far more failure than success you would think at some point we would learn from it. You would think that but considering that the majority of Americans are as dumb as Fordy it’s not surprising it keeps happening . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: anyone who thinks out foreign policies disasters have not effected other countries are retards so IDGAF about their list. Hindsight has shown far more failure than success you would think at some point we would learn from it. So we should pay for all of South & Central America's people now eh ... lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: You would think that but considering that the majority of Americans are as dumb as Fordy it’s not surprising it keeps happening . "70's years ago we did this" .... ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, ford_428cj said: You sound like that idiot snacks - as he said the same. When asked - he brought up something from the 1950's as an example ... i don't need to go to the 50's but thats when it started. the list of our failures is long Vietnam, Laos, Nicaragua, Columbia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc Reality is Trump campaigned on staying out of others shit and putting America first. I am completely comfortable with that but it does not erase what we have stirred up in the world. I am not for allowing illegals in, I'm not for letting Muslims in. I am for controlled immigration and making sure that those we let here are going to fit in (mexicans being the perfect group, strong family bonds and hard workers) . But i also recognize that for the dreamers this is the only life they have known an they should be allowed to stay. their parents home not them broke the law but if thee parents can prove they stayed out of trouble and are workers are they not the type we should probably consider allowing to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) They come here because we are the best country in the world yet they make drawings from there homeland to make them feel better ? How about drawing a USA flag/ I thought those countries were shit holes and that's why they came here.. Edited July 25, 2019 by Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, ford_428cj said: So we should pay for all of South & Central America's people now eh ... lmao never once said that but we need to recognize our failures and learn from them not repeat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 25, 2019 Quote The exhibit showcases artwork by children aged 13-17 from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and other Latin American nations that was made during a multiday art project designed to uplift the children and remind them of their homelands. It's children's art work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, Pete said: They come here because we are the best country in the world yet they make drawings form there homeland to make them feel better ? How about drawing a USA flag/ I thought those countries were shit holes and that's why they came here.. they are kids, American kids with shitty upbringings still have childhood memories, SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, Angry ginger said: they are kids, American kids with shitty upbringings still have childhood memories, SMH ok jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: i don't need to go to the 50's but thats when it started. the list of our failures is long Vietnam, Laos, Nicaragua, Columbia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc Reality is Trump campaigned on staying out of others shit and putting America first. I am completely comfortable with that but it does not erase what we have stirred up in the world. I am not for allowing illegals in, I'm not for letting Muslims in. I am for controlled immigration and making sure that those we let here are going to fit in (mexicans being the perfect group, strong family bonds and hard workers) . But i also recognize that for the dreamers this is the only life they have known an they should be allowed to stay. their parents home not them broke the law but if thee parents can prove they stayed out of trouble and are workers are they not the type we should probably consider allowing to stay. I'd agree with that. Somalia - weren't we there trying to help them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pete said: They come here because we are the best country in the world yet they make drawings from there homeland to make them feel better ? How about drawing a USA flag/ I thought those countries were shit holes and that's why they came here.. Tearing down the USA flag & replacing it with a Mexican one in Denver last week didn't seem like they wanted to assimilate ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, ford_428cj said: I'd agree with that. Somalia - weren't we there trying to help them though we are always "trying to help". When is the last time we truly made things better. Somalia still a shithole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, ford_428cj said: Tearing down the USA flag & replacing it with a Mexican one in Denver last week didn't seem like they wanted to assimilate ... No they don't want to. They want us to change.. fuck them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: we are always "trying to help". When is the last time we truly made things better. Somalia still a shithole got anything good to say about our great country? Yeah that's what I thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 25, 2019 See...what did I tell you AG...fucking pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Fine Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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