XC.Morrison Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Roosting said: So what kind of resources to wind and solar are required to bring said product to market? and how would that production somehow be less than coal/NG fired power? what are the differences in production in relation to GHG does the production of solar and wind vs a coal/NG fired generator? What emits more? Is there a requirement for a reliable backup source of energy to be able to immediately recover any generation lost to solar or wind? And does this requirement guarantee that there will be equal amounts of conventional backup to new solar and wind installed. Ie if 100mw of solar is installed does that require 100mw of coal/NG to back it up? If a coal/NG generating stn is supplemented with solar/wind do the coal/NG units get shut down or run on hot standby? Do battery's require massive amounts of energy to produce and dispose of? is there a real difference in total over a 10 year lifespan of electric vs gas powered vehicles? is the electricity to charge your electric car from coal/Ng or Hydro generation. Where does the added generation for electric vehicles come from if it's environmentally unacceptable to use Hydro for new sources of generation? I think we’re going to see a major paradigm shit in terms of how electricity is made. I think we’re going to see a more decentralized power grid. More homes will be equipped with their own wind, solar, etc. It will vary based on region. Central plants will exist as backup sources and those not equipped for energy independence. The backup sizing won’t be equal to the needs of filling in for simultaneous failure of everyone’s equipment. Studies will need to determine the failure rates and forecasters will need to determine backup capacity. Backup sourcing in the near future will be a combination of natural gas, wind, solar, and hydro. Looking further ahead you’ll see natural gas phased out as renewables prevail as the dominant energy sources. Electric cars will see improved battery reliability and improved charging technology. At some point hydrogen fuel cells will replace conventional battery technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Hydro electric and nuclear are our best bet at this point. Wind and solar are trash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Oops. Who in their right mind actually believes computer models are accurate or could even remotely be close to being accurate? https://www.thegwpf.com/national-park-removed-warning-that-glaciers-will-all-be-gone-by-2020-after-years-of-heavy-snowfall/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 9, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, irv said: Oops. Who in their right mind actually believes computer models are accurate or could even remotely be close to being accurate? https://www.thegwpf.com/national-park-removed-warning-that-glaciers-will-all-be-gone-by-2020-after-years-of-heavy-snowfall/ Why didn't they form until 7,000 yrs ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Why didn't they form until 7,000 yrs ago? nobody knows why we had the mini ice age, we can speculate but we have no clue. Planet was burning magma, then was frozen over, and right now is pretty stable and good for habitation, in the future, well we have no clue but it will change, and we will simply adapt to what it throws at us.but hey, if we just give cash to government they will get it stable and under control., never to change again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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