Snoslinger Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Any tax calculator to prove your point. You can't get 10k in NY state income taxes making 160k so that part of your hypothetical example is bullshit. i already stated to punch in the fucking new number of $8500!!! guess what, dumb ass? id still pay more in taxes than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: i already stated to punch in the fucking new number of $8500!!! guess what, dumb ass? id still pay more in taxes than last year. You punch it in and show a screen shot. FFS, it's up to you now. I showed you where and why I didn't believe what you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Snake said: That wouldn't bother me at all. She got promoted from a GS-12 Bankruptcy Specialist to the Group manager for her section. With it came a huge raise. Also lots of 60 hour weeks. Well it bothers me because there is no reason for me to bring her into it but yeah she sounds like she is a go getter with a good head on her shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Snake said: That wouldn't bother me at all. She got promoted from a GS-12 Bankruptcy Specialist to the Group manager for her section. With it came a huge raise. Also lots of 60 hour weeks. She pulls in those hours all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well it bothers me because there is no reason for me to bring her into it but yeah she sounds like she is a go getter with a good head on her shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, racer254 said: You punch it in and show a screen shot. FFS, it's up to you now. I showed you where and why I didn't believe what you said. evidently i didn't update the new numbers after opening rigid's leak to another area in NY. my bad, although it doesn't matter really. so in syracuse, someone making $160000 pays $7200 in state income taxes. i rounded down to $40K in my 2017 deduction example, from $43000. so plugging those new numbers into the tax equation, i would have paid $118,685 in 2017, and this year $21, 579. so i paid more this year, because i could deduct less. do you understand this yet, numbnuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Nothing wrong with the mrs bringing home the bacon. Times are changing. Fuck no. I'd love if my wife made what I do and I could be a stay at home dad. Especially now the kids are gone. Actually she still outworks most people but I love giving her shit about it. If I say "so what did you do today" with anything but the perfect tone her response is "what the hell does that mean." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 so what's next? since you couldn't grasp the insignificance of the state income changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well it bothers me because there is no reason for me to bring her into it but yeah she sounds like she is a go getter with a good head on her shoulders. Not a problem, no offense taken. I don't care if you want to argue, just leave out the personal and I will do the same. I don't mind a good go around.. at all. But the faggot stuff and the personal stuff is such a turn off. So, truce on family and jobs. We all do what we do to survive in this world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: evidently i didn't update the new numbers after opening rigid's leak to another area in NY. my bad, although it doesn't matter really. so in syracuse, someone making $160000 pays $7200 in state income taxes. i rounded down to $40K in my 2017 deduction example, from $43000. so plugging those new numbers into the tax equation, i would have paid $118,685 in 2017, and this year $21, 579. so i paid more this year, because i could deduct less. do you understand this yet, numbnuts? Strange that your tax equations is so much different from the calculator. That's all I'm saying. Enter your financial details to calculate your taxes 160K, 13201 zip 40K itemized. 2 personal exemptions Household Income Location Filing Status Married Single Married Advanced 401(k) Contribution IRA Contribution Itemized Deductions Number of Personal Exemptions Your 2018 Estimated State Income Tax: $6,967 Your Income Taxes Breakdown Tax Type Marginal Tax Rate Effective Tax Rate 2018 Taxes* Federal 22.00% 10.47% $16,746 FICA 1.45% 6.43% $10,281 State 6.33% 4.35% $6,967 Local 0.00% 0.00% $0 Total Income Taxes 21.25% $33,994 Income After Taxes $126,006 Retirement Contributions $0 Take-Home Pay $126,006 * These are the taxes owed for the 2018 - 2019 filing season. Changes to Your Federal Income Taxes Under the 2018 Tax Reform $0$10k$20k$5k$15k 2017 $17,686 2018 $16,746 2017 $17,686 Your marginal federal income tax ratechanged from 25.00% to 22.00%. Your effective federal income tax ratechanged from 11.05% to 10.47%. Your federal income taxes changed from $17,686 to $16,746. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: evidently i didn't update the new numbers after opening rigid's leak to another area in NY. my bad, although it doesn't matter really. so in syracuse, someone making $160000 pays $7200 in state income taxes. i rounded down to $40K in my 2017 deduction example, from $43000. so plugging those new numbers into the tax equation, i would have paid $118,685 in 2017, and this year $21, 579. so i paid more this year, because i could deduct less. do you understand this yet, numbnuts? Why are your "examples" never completely truthful? Always hypothetical......because they are a fucking narrative and the bullshit that you spew is always like that. Even with your bullshit here you can't seem to get it to correlate fully with the narrative. You're grasping at straws to make it work and if your actual numbers were close you should have been able to plug something close in the calculator and come up with it fairly easily. it's just the shit like this that shows how pathetic some are to make it look worse than it actually is....VICTIMS of tax cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Strange that your tax equations is so much different from the calculator. That's all I'm saying. Enter your financial details to calculate your taxes 160K, 13201 zip 40K itemized. 2 personal exemptions Household Income Location Filing Status Married Single Married Advanced 401(k) Contribution IRA Contribution Itemized Deductions Number of Personal Exemptions Your 2018 Estimated State Income Tax: $6,967 Your Income Taxes Breakdown Tax Type Marginal Tax Rate Effective Tax Rate 2018 Taxes* Federal 22.00% 10.47% $16,746 FICA 1.45% 6.43% $10,281 State 6.33% 4.35% $6,967 Local 0.00% 0.00% $0 Total Income Taxes 21.25% $33,994 Income After Taxes $126,006 Retirement Contributions $0 Take-Home Pay $126,006 * These are the taxes owed for the 2018 - 2019 filing season. Changes to Your Federal Income Taxes Under the 2018 Tax Reform $0$10k$20k$5k$15k 2017 $17,686 2018 $16,746 2017 $17,686 Your marginal federal income tax ratechanged from 25.00% to 22.00%. Your effective federal income tax ratechanged from 11.05% to 10.47%. Your federal income taxes changed from $17,686 to $16,746. It's just amazing that he can't find a tax calculator that fully agrees with his numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: As I’ve passed 50 I realize that arguing politics with friends and family isn’t really the best thing to do for a lot of reasons...I just get it out of my system here. 😂 i don;t take it serious in the real world but here i'll roll in the mud just for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, racer254 said: It's just amazing that he can't find a tax calculator that fully agrees with his numbers. Fully agree might be tough but damn its way fucking off. https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-tax-calculator#FliYtaPYbi Edited April 16, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Fully agree might be tough but damn its way fucking off. As far as I am concerned, he can just stop. It was a narrative from the OP and he won't ever be able to prove it because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, racer254 said: As far as I am concerned, he can just stop. It was a narrative from the OP and he won't ever be able to prove it because of that. In the end I hope is taxes went up.....in fact way the fuck up. It would be sweeter even yet if he was fucking them up. Edited April 16, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Highmark said: Strange that your tax equations is so much different from the calculator. That's all I'm saying. Enter your financial details to calculate your taxes 160K, 13201 zip 40K itemized. 2 personal exemptions Household Income Location Filing Status Married Single Married Advanced 401(k) Contribution IRA Contribution Itemized Deductions Number of Personal Exemptions Your 2018 Estimated State Income Tax: $6,967 Your Income Taxes Breakdown Tax Type Marginal Tax Rate Effective Tax Rate 2018 Taxes* Federal 22.00% 10.47% $16,746 FICA 1.45% 6.43% $10,281 State 6.33% 4.35% $6,967 Local 0.00% 0.00% $0 Total Income Taxes 21.25% $33,994 Income After Taxes $126,006 Retirement Contributions $0 Take-Home Pay $126,006 * These are the taxes owed for the 2018 - 2019 filing season. Changes to Your Federal Income Taxes Under the 2018 Tax Reform $0$10k$20k$5k$15k 2017 $17,686 2018 $16,746 2017 $17,686 Your marginal federal income tax ratechanged from 25.00% to 22.00%. Your effective federal income tax ratechanged from 11.05% to 10.47%. Your federal income taxes changed from $17,686 to $16,746. Why are you putting in 40k for 2018? I am limited to 25 K in my example, because of the limitations I mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: Why are you putting in 40k for 2018? I am limited to 25 K in my example, because of the limitations I mentioned I stated earlier my assumption is the tax calculator figures the best method and applies that deduction. The whole idea of a calculator is for it to figure those things for you. Again I do not know how this particular calculator is doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, racer254 said: Why are your "examples" never completely truthful? Always hypothetical......because they are a fucking narrative and the bullshit that you spew is always like that. Even with your bullshit here you can't seem to get it to correlate fully with the narrative. You're grasping at straws to make it work and if your actual numbers were close you should have been able to plug something close in the calculator and come up with it fairly easily. it's just the shit like this that shows how pathetic some are to make it look worse than it actually is....VICTIMS of tax cuts. You are beyond the stupidest mother fucker in the forum. It’s the country. I have you an example so you could see the problem. I did not look up the fucking state taxes in my area. Not only is it unimportant in the point, they’re not that fucking far off from reality. Especially in other areas of NY. So continue looking like a fucking dumb ass. You are beyond help. Anyone with a clue about taxes, and there are a few, sees your blatant stupidity. I should have known you’d never understand this, considering you couldn’t even do a simple tax bracket question when noggin and I asked you to awhile back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: I stated earlier my assumption is the tax calculator figures the best method and applies that deduction. The whole idea of a calculator is for it to figure those things for you. Again I do not know how this particular calculator is doing it. Well if you were smart, you’d plug in 24k, then something higher, to see if it changes. It does. That calculator is assuming you actually had $40k in valid deductions, which was not the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: You are beyond the stupidest mother fucker in the forum. It’s the country. I have you an example so you could see the problem. I did not look up the fucking state taxes in my area. Not only is it unimportant in the point, they’re not that fucking far off from reality. Especially in other areas of NY. So continue looking like a fucking dumb ass. You are beyond help. Anyone with a clue about taxes, and there are a few, sees your blatant stupidity. I should have known you’d never understand this, considering you couldn’t even do a simple tax bracket question when noggin and I asked you to awhile back. I went and proved my point with an actual New York state tax calculator rather than speculation and hypothetical examples. Everyone can see that and I posted the link so they can make their own assumptions. Sorry if it ruined the narrative for you. BTW, your numbers were a little off according to it as well, but I didn't figure you would believe that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: Well if you were smart, you’d plug in 24k, then something higher, to see if it changes. It does. That calculator is assuming you actually had $40k in valid deductions, which was not the case You have no qualifying deductions other than taxes and interest Beto? You do realize there are other itemized deductions right.....even when taking the standard deduction? Just plugging in a higher number doesn't exactly tell the whole tale but I agree, most likely it is asking for a calculated figure of what is allowable. https://smartasset.com/taxes/tax-breaks-you-can-claim-without-itemizing Goes back to me being extremely happy a pro high tax guy is paying in his "fair share." Thanks for the tax cut! Edited April 16, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: You have no qualifying deductions other than taxes and interest Beto? You do realize there are other itemized deductions right.....even when taking the standard deduction? Just plugging in a higher number doesn't exactly tell the whole tale but I agree, most likely it is asking for a calculated figure of what is allowable. https://smartasset.com/taxes/tax-breaks-you-can-claim-without-itemizing Goes back to me being extremely happy a pro high tax guy is paying in his "fair share." Thanks for the tax cut! I figured giving him the link to the tax calculator he should have been able to easily post the screen shots and prove his point. IDK what more can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: You have no qualifying deductions other than taxes and interest Beto? You do realize there are other itemized deductions right.....even when taking the standard deduction? Just plugging in a higher number doesn't exactly tell the whole tale but I agree, most likely it is asking for a calculated figure of what is allowable. https://smartasset.com/taxes/tax-breaks-you-can-claim-without-itemizing Goes back to me being extremely happy a pro high tax guy is paying in his "fair share." Thanks for the tax cut! why would he have other deductions, those fit a narrow portion of the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 16, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: why would he have other deductions, those fit a narrow portion of the population. See the and the Beto comment? He would even lose more if he had any charitable contributions. Again I'm flipping him shit. I'd assume someone making that kind of coin was donating 10% of their income. Just found it funny he only complained about the tax and interest deduction losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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