Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted February 1, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: whoooooosh. Dumb Dave strikes again Who's dumber - Dave or Doe Dumber? Of course we could split em’ up by country Dave’s comoition would be Sludgey and Doe Dumber’s would be Tricycle Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: That’s more or less what we have now ya damn fool. Otherwise why wouldn’t these vehicles be driving through the open border elsewhere? Because they cant...duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Instead of wasting money on this fucking wall how about increasing manpower at the legal points of entry. exactly. border patrol will have to monitor the border regardless of what is there. if it's a wall, people climb over and tunnel over. if it's a fence, they'll cut through. there is no magic barrier that will stop everything. therefore you might as well put your funds towards more patrols, more monitoring, fence, etc. 52 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Who's dumber - Dave or Doe Dumber? Of course we could split em’ up by country Dave’s comoition would be Sludgey and Doe Dumber’s would be Tricycle Rider that really is a tough call. add to that jtssrx and it's a 3 way tie 36 minutes ago, DAVE said: Because they cant...duh. why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: It's common knowledge to those that don't listen to Trump...the rest makes zero sense. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/fact-check-mike-pence-donald-trump-drugs-crossing-southern-border-wall/2591279002/ Why are you anti wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: Why are you anti wall? Because Trump wants one....only reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) here's an analogy for you jtssrx, try to follow along... you have a mansion in a bad area, people are constantly trying to break in. you have a barbed wire fence, some security cameras, and sensors. every now and then someone gets in and steals your tampon supply out of the shed. now, would putting a very expensive wall up prevent any of this? or would you have to still use the security cameras, sensors, etc.? the answer is yes to the last question. because people could figure out how to get in. they'd climb over, or tunnel under, of break through the wall. therefore, the expensive wall is a waste of funds, and you'b be better off investing in more cameras, sensors, etc. Edited February 1, 2019 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, DAVE said: Because Trump wants one....only reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: exactly. border patrol will have to monitor the border regardless of what is there. if it's a wall, people climb over and tunnel over. if it's a fence, they'll cut through. there is no magic barrier that will stop everything. therefore you might as well put your funds towards more patrols, more monitoring, fence, etc. that really is a tough call. add to that jtssrx and it's a 3 way tie why not? dumb dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: Laugh all you want.... But its TRUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Lets say you put 20 border guards every 50 miles along the border. No wall Every point along the border is an easy point of entry. Take 40 caravans of 50 people crossing at the mid point of every station point. It will take 1/2 an hour for border security to get there. Looks like there is going to be some successful groups due to unfettered access. Same scenario now with some sort of border barrier. Inherently there will be areas that will be easier to breach and some that are harder. Say it takes 5 minutes per person to breach said border barrier or 20 min to cut through. now with the 1/2 hour response time of border security, are they in a better situation with the wall or with out? The false flag argument of the wall and nothing else is fucking retarted. Drones and more personnel without some sort of physical barrier will do nothing. If the wall is too expensive with a one time 5B cost, how much will expanded drone and personnel costs be ( with no wall both would have to be significantly grown from what they would be with a wall) year over year? Guaranteed the wall is the cheaper option long term. Why has this cost not been discussed yet? Everyone just glossed over it like it doesn't matter. Weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 1, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jtssrx said: Why are you anti wall? 1 hour ago, DAVE said: Because Trump wants one....only reason. Really Dave....Yet another reason why you are Gummy Sr. BTW just because you bumbled around the desert for a few days eating and getting a sunburn doesn't make you an expert on border security. Edited February 1, 2019 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 1, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Roosting said: Lets say you put 20 border guards every 50 miles along the border. No wall Every point along the border is an easy point of entry. Take 40 caravans of 50 people crossing at the mid point of every station point. It will take 1/2 an hour for border security to get there. Looks like there is going to be some successful groups due to unfettered access. Same scenario now with some sort of border barrier. Inherently there will be areas that will be easier to breach and some that are harder. Say it takes 5 minutes per person to breach said border barrier or 20 min to cut through. now with the 1/2 hour response time of border security, are they in a better situation with the wall or with out? The false flag argument of the wall and nothing else is fucking retarted. Drones and more personnel without some sort of physical barrier will do nothing. If the wall is too expensive with a one time 5B cost, how much will expanded drone and personnel costs be ( with no wall both would have to be significantly grown from what they would be with a wall) year over year? Guaranteed the wall is the cheaper option long term. Why has this cost not been discussed yet? Everyone just glossed over it like it doesn't matter. Weird Jesus Christ Racer you really think the wall is only going to cost 5 billion dollars...SMH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well first of all this 5 Billion dollar wall is going to cost god knows how many times that amount so just spend the money on manpower to work the legal checkpoints...infinitely cheaper and more effective. again that would be fine until the next set of dems get in and cut border funding . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 What are the costs then? Projected/forcast there must be something out there that's not propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Jesus Christ Racer you really think the wall is only going to cost 5 billion dollars...SMH. 5 billion see how far it goes . contractors have built the proto types and can bis accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 1, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: again that would be fine until the next set of dems get in and cut border funding . So who is going to man and patrol this magic wall if they cut border funding? If you are going to operate from this position then why do anything at all about anything in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 1, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: 5 billion see how far it goes . contractors have built the proto types and can bis accordingly At least you realize 5 billion is a phony number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: At least you realize 5 billion is a phony number. no i do not contractors have built the protos . like 6 corps if i remember . you dont think they have given any sort of fer foot cost on there models ? or do you think they just winged it and would figure it out what there proto latter if any one ever asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: So who is going to man and patrol this magic wall if they cut border funding? If you are going to operate from this position then why do anything at all about anything in this country? again you need less man power to control someplace with a barrier of some sort as apposed to a open cotton field . never been to a border town ? why dont they have us side check points out side of them like they do in places like yuma where there is no wall in the aria ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Really Dave....Yet another reason why you are Gummy Sr. BTW just because you bumbled around the desert for a few days eating and getting a sunburn doesn't make you an expert on border security. Youre bumbling around only on your couch.. anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Really Dave....Yet another reason why you are Gummy Sr. BTW just because you bumbled around the desert for a few days eating and getting a sunburn doesn't make you an expert on border security. Why are you anti wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 1, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: 5 billion see how far it goes . contractors have built the proto types and can bis accordingly 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: At least you realize 5 billion is a phony number. 13 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: no i do not contractors have built the protos . like 6 corps if i remember . you dont think they have given any sort of fer foot cost on there models ? or do you think they just winged it and would figure it out what there proto latter if any one ever asked Read the first line of your first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 1, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, DAVE said: Youre bumbling around only on your couch.. anything else? Yes...stop assigning me positions and acting like you know why I oppose the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Read the first line of your first post. again do you not think the proto builders gave a per foot price of there model ? there were like 6 company's who built diff styles . I would bet at least 6 could give a per foot cost and all 6 could give a per inch cost as well as a per mile cost . I would guess the bid paper work is ready to file today if need be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yes...stop assigning me positions and acting like you know why I oppose the wall. Idgaf why you oppose the wall...but youve been on emotional overload as of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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