ActionfigureJoe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 He was born the wrong color for the trump administration and it’s followers He's a US citizen who was born and raised in Michigan. He's a Marine veteran who served in Afghanistan. And last month, he spent several days in Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody. Now, Jilmar Ramos-Gomez's family and immigrant rights groups say officials owe them an explanation. "The fact that he has the name that he does, that he's of the ethnic background that he is, almost certainly played a role," said Miriam Aukerman, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU of Michigan. Advocates say the 27-year-old's case shows the peril of what can happen when local authorities too readily cooperate with ICE. ICE said Ramos-Gomez himself told ICE officers who interviewed him that he was a foreign national living illegally in the United States. "ICE officers worked in good faith with the information they had available at the time," the agency said in a statement released to CNN affiliate WOOD-TV. Mother: 'They don't care what he did for his country' Ramos-Gomez was eventually released after three days in ICE custody. But the veteran's mother told reporters Wednesday that she was still reeling from the experience. "I almost had a heart attack when I found out that my son was in Immigration's hands. They don't care what he did for his country," Maria Gomez said. "That makes me mad." Maria Gomez's son, Jilmar Ramos-Gomez, was held for three days for possible deportation after pleading guilty to a disturbance at a western Michigan hospital. Ramos-Gomez served in the Marines from October 2011 to August 2014, according to military records. The lance corporal and tank crewman was awarded numerous medals for his service. But he returned home "a shell of his former self" and suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, the ACLU said Wednesday. "He has episodes where he disappears," the ACLU said, "and when he is found again he often has no recollection of where he has been." That's what happened in November, according to the ACLU, when local authorities in Grand Rapids, Michigan, arrested Ramos-Gomez after he allegedly set a small fire at a hospital, pulled a fire alarm and ended up on the hospital's helipad. He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor trespassing charge and a judge had ordered him to be released on his own recognizance, according to his attorney. But instead of releasing him from jail, advocates said, local authorities handed him over to ICE. Related Video: Deported US military veterans live in limbo 04:02 Kent County Undersheriff Chuck DeWitt told WOOD that his department's contract with ICE meant authorities had to tell the federal agency when Ramos-Gomez was about to be released. Ramos-Gomez had "claimed in verbal statements to be a foreign national illegally present in the US," ICE said in a statement released through the sheriff's office. "Based on his statements, ICE lodged a detainer with local authorities." But immigration attorney Richard Kessler told The Washington Post that ICE's account didn't provide enough of an explanation. "I think it's racial stereotyping," Kessler said. "And it should have been evident that he had pretty significant mental-health issues." Advocates: We warned this would happen Immigrant rights groups said the case highlights what they were afraid would happen when local authorities signed an agreement to cooperate with ICE. "This is precisely the type of incident that we warned would happen," attorney Hillary Scholten of the Michigan Immigrant Rights Center told reporters. "And unfortunately, now it has." The ACLU is calling for officials in Kent County, Michigan, to investigate the case -- and to put an end to their close ties with ICE. "Research has shown conclusively that local law enforcement's collaboration with ICE increases instances of racial profiling, and sows distrust between the community and law enforcement," advocates said in a letter. "This voluntary practice can be stopped at any time. The time to do so is now." ICE has said it issues detainer requests to local law enforcement agencies to protect public safety and carry out its mission. Ramos-Gomez isn't the only US citizen who's ended up in ICE custody. Last month, the ACLU and Southern Poverty Law Center filed a lawsuit over the detention of Peter Sean Brown, a US citizen who was born in Philadelphia and ended up in ICE detention in Florida. An investigation by the Los Angeles Times last year found that ICE had released more than 1,400 people from custody since 2012 after investigating citizenship claims. Matthew Albence, a top ICE official, told the newspaper that the agency takes any assertions that a detained individual may be a US citizen very seriously. ICE updates records when errors are found, Albence said in a statement to the Times, and agents arrest only those they have probable cause to suspect are eligible for deportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Give me a fucking break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Give me a fucking break. Exactly...you should be pissed about this...guy served his country with distinction in combat and gets treated like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Exactly...you should be pissed about this...guy served his country with distinction in combat and gets treated like this. Plenty of half-wits serve. That isn't a "get out of stupid free" card. ...and, as usual, I'm betting there is more to the story. Much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Plenty of half-wits serve. That isn't a "get out of stupid free" card. ...and, as usual, I'm betting there is more to the story. Much more. You’d know...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, SnowRider said: You’d know...... This is your mental disorder kicking in again. Why do you do this to yourself everyday? Oh..that's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 Sorry Derpski but you grooved that one across the heart of the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 Well was he born and raised here , or was he a foreign national as he said he was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Not sure nor do I care...poor guy got his eggs scrambled in Afghanistan for this country...he deserves better. Edited January 18, 2019 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Sorry Derpski but you grooved that one across the heart of the plate. I don't know what this means but it made me LOL anyway. 10 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Well was he born and raised here , or was he a foreign national as he said he was? Like I said...or Like Paul Harvey used to say.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Plenty of half-wits serve. That isn't a "get out of stupid free" card. ...and, as usual, I'm betting there is more to the story. Much more. If im reading this correctly...guy gives ice false info...guy regularly disappears...guy has psdd....ice holds him 3 days to varify who he is....and lets him go. Not seeing a problem there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 ICE has since spoken out about the incident. In a statement, the organization said that Ramos-Gomez told them he was an undocumented immigrant during an interview on November 23, 2018. Ramos-Gomez was released from custody after the family attorney was able to show documentation proving that he is an American citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, DAVE said: If im reading this correctly...guy gives ice false info...guy regularly disappears...guy has psdd....ice holds him 3 days to varify who he is....and lets him go. Not seeing a problem there. Me either. Stupid games usually have stupid prizes available....and usually, multiple "winners". 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: ICE has since spoken out about the incident. In a statement, the organization said that Ramos-Gomez told them he was an undocumented immigrant during an interview on November 23, 2018. Ramos-Gomez was released from custody after the family attorney was able to show documentation proving that he is an American citizen. I hope he enjoyed putting his family thought that. Has an idiot started a "GoFundMe" for this ass clown yet? Maybe Spinner can do that when he's done crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: ICE has since spoken out about the incident. In a statement, the organization said that Ramos-Gomez told them he was an undocumented immigrant during an interview on November 23, 2018. Ramos-Gomez was released from custody after the family attorney was able to show documentation proving that he is an American citizen. Im not sure how it works....maybe some vets on this site can help....but do vets have Im a US Veteran stamped on their foreheads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, DAVE said: Im not sure how it works....maybe some vets on this site can help....but do vets have Im a US Veteran stamped on their foreheads? They don't need that tattoo. For many, it is spouted out of their pie holes in every other sentence. Some really like being "thanked for their service" by anyone they allow to patronize them. REMFs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Starts a fire inside a hospital then pulls the fire alarm! He shouldnt be in ICE custody he should be in a mental institution. How long before he hurts or kills someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Starts a fire inside a hospital then pulls the fire alarm! He shouldnt be in ICE custody he should be in a mental institution. How long before he hurts or kills someone. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: Starts a fire inside a hospital then pulls the fire alarm! He shouldnt be in ICE custody he should be in a mental institution. How long before he hurts or kills someone. FUCK ICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND FUCK TRUMP!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Starts a fire inside a hospital then pulls the fire alarm! He shouldnt be in ICE custody he should be in a mental institution. How long before he hurts or kills someone. Yeah but he’s not white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Yeah but he’s not white. So ice wouldnt have believed the guy if he was white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Exactly...you should be pissed about this...guy served his country with distinction in combat and gets treated like this. guy claimed he was illegal. took a few days to straighten it out, because it was the weekend. it is what it is. Guy clearly needs a lot of mental health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, Angry ginger said: guy claimed he was illegal. took a few days to straighten it out, because it was the weekend. it is what it is. Guy clearly needs a lot of mental health Yup. Fake outrage everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: guy claimed he was illegal. took a few days to straighten it out, because it was the weekend. it is what it is. Guy clearly needs a lot of mental health Yeah, the guy is obviously afflicted. Hopefully he gets the help he needs. Can’t really fault ICE here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Yeah, the guy is obviously afflicted. Hopefully he gets the help he needs. Can’t really fault ICE here. But the spin doctor tried anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, DAVE said: So ice wouldnt have believed the guy if he was white? ICE wouldnt have got involved nor the question of his legal status been an issue had he been white guy of polish decent with a Brooklyn accent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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