motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: I suppose China and Vietnam are next then. I mean we didn't get the job done the first time. Reality is countries like NK and Iran having nuclear weapons isn't the issue. They won't use them offensively. Anyone who fears that is an idiot. The problem is them selling some to Islamic extremists who would use them the first chance they got. Lol. China and Vietnam aren't communist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 9, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Lol. China and Vietnam aren't communist. Ok, Marxist-Leninist one party socialist republic governed by a communist party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Ok, Marxist-Leninist one party socialist republic governed by a communist party. They're state capitalist, not communist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzman Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Smoke and mirrors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 9, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: They're state capitalist, not communist. Well they think they are as does the rest of the world. Edited April 9, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: Well they think they are as does the rest of the world. So you'll believe the propaganda rather than look at how they operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 9, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: So you'll believe the propaganda rather than look at how they operate. Not everyone agrees with you on what communism is or isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not everyone agrees with you on what communism is or isn't. Obviously. Some people define communism as 'everything i don't like". Words actually mean things, though. Communism describes a classless, moneyless society where the people have control over the means of production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I think it's good that Trump is willing to meet with NK. Having said that it was the US that has been unwilling to meet with NK for years, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 9, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Obviously. Some people define communism as 'everything i don't like". Words actually mean things, though. Communism describes a classless, moneyless society where the people have control over the means of production. Yada, yada, yada. No need to beat this dead horse anymore. The world doesn't accept that as the only type of communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: Yada, yada, yada. No need to beat this dead horse anymore. The world doesn't accept that as the only type of communism. This is you being willfully ignorant of the actual definition of communism as defined by actual communists. You want to ignore the true definition so that you can call anything you don't like 'communism'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 9, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Jimmy Kim is a ruthless killer. He kills his own family members. WAKE THE FUCK UP GUYS I don’t even know how to respond to this anymore so I’ll just laugh. Edited April 9, 2018 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 9, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, motonoggin said: This is you being willfully ignorant of the actual definition of communism as defined by actual communists. You want to ignore the true definition so that you can call anything you don't like 'communism'. I'm not being willfully ignorant of anything. I completely understand your definition as I do the how world defines it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: I'm not being willfully ignorant of anything. I completely understand your definition as I do the how world defines it. Yes you are. You're saying that there is more than one definition of communism. There isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China Is North Korea a democratic republic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 9, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Yes you are. You're saying that there is more than one definition of communism. There isn't. I swear its like talking to a brick wall. Definition of communism 1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed b : a theory advocating elimination of private property 2capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R. b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Is North Korea a democratic republic? Google is your friend.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I swear its like talking to a brick wall. Definition of communism 1a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed b : a theory advocating elimination of private property 2capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R. b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively Lol. Citing western definitions... China is state capitalist. There is private property and private ownership. They use money. They have classes. All of these factors disqualify them from fitting the real definition of communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: Google is your friend.. They call themselves one, so they must be. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted April 9, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, motonoggin said: They call themselves one, so they must be. What do you think? Out of curiosity, where do you get your definition of communism? Why is it the authority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Kivalo said: Out of curiosity, where do you get your definition of communism? Why is it the authority? Gee, idk, maybe from the people who actually came up with communism in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted April 9, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Gee, idk, maybe from the people who actually came up with communism in the first place? Can you show a source or are we expected to take your word on what "true" communism is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Can you show a source or are we expected to take your word on what "true" communism is? Have you even read Marx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Them: *never read Marx* Also them: *expert on communism* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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