Angry ginger Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 16 hours ago, ckf said: Jr is an average driver. Nothing wrong with that really. I'm sure there are a lot of drivers that would love to have won 26 races in their career. nope but certainly doesn;t make him deserving of any awards when there are actually really good drivers out there including the young guns. NASCAR pushing Junior and Danica hasn't helped their popularity time to try something different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 One of the best drivers to never win the championship Quote Mark Martin elected to NMPA Hall of Fame: Mark Martin, winner of 40 NASCAR premier series races and a runner-up in the championship battle on five occasions, has been selected for induction into the National Motorsports Press Association Hall of Fame. Martin, 57, will be inducted Sunday, Jan. 22, 2017. He was named on 95 percent of the ballots cast by the NMPA membership. The Batesville, Arkansas, native competed in NASCAR for more than three decades. His 40 career victories currently rank 17th on the all-time list for the series while his 882 career starts rank fifth overall for the sanctioning body's top series. Others receiving votes but falling short of the required 65 percent necessary for induction were veteran crew chiefs Kirk Shelmerdine (61 percent), Buddy Parrott (59 percent) and Larry McReynolds (51 percent); and long-time Martinsville Speedway public relations director Dick Thompson (59 percent). Former statistician Bob Latford and driver Dan Gurney were also named as write-in candidates on this year's Hall of Fame ballot.(NMPA)(11-24-2016) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Mark Martin had to shake the demon bottle from his life, turned things around , got on a health regime , ran his cars for the wins. Plus a nice person to the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 24, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 hours ago, hwytohell said: Mark Martin had to shake the demon bottle from his life, turned things around , got on a health regime , ran his cars for the wins. Plus a nice person to the fans. Never knew that....always admired the way he raced and how he was so humble and gave credit to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 him passively motherfucking jack roush when he left was awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: him passively motherfucking jack roush when he left was awesome. I never heard what happened there. I thought he would end his career at Roush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 24, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: him passively motherfucking jack roush when he left was awesome. Jack Roush seems like a bit of an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlSpackler Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Roush racing has been a cluster fuck for years,. Robbie Reiser finally got shit canned. That is the problem. Old fuckers tht have billions to spend rarely are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 10 hours ago, ckf said: One of the best drivers to never win the championship Average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Dave said: Average 40 cup wins along with 49 Xfinity wins. Definitely above average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 On 23/11/2016 at 11:42 AM, Angry ginger said: nope but certainly doesn;t make him deserving of any awards when there are actually really good drivers out there including the young guns. NASCAR pushing Junior and Danica hasn't helped their popularity time to try something different. NASCAR hasn't pushed Junior whatsoever you fucking idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, ckf said: 40 cup wins along with 49 Xfinity wins. Definitely above average Dave sings the praises of Jr. but disses JJ and Martin.....wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Dave said: NASCAR hasn't pushed Junior whatsoever you fucking idiot You have got to be fucking kidding....you just lost all credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Biggie Smails said: Dave sings the praises of Jr. but disses JJ and Martin.....wierd. I'm a fan of Jr too. I've just come to the conclusion that he isn't his father Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Daves man crush is out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, ckf said: I'm a fan of Jr too. I've just come to the conclusion that he isn't his father So am I and I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, ckf said: 40 cup wins along with 49 Xfinity wins. Definitely above average So Martins career win percentage is the same as jr's in cup but jr's just average.... interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, ckf said: I never heard what happened there. I thought he would end his career at Roush? I think he thought he had a deal to be there for life then roush screwed him for a younger gun after a marginal year, the following year he would just gush and gush how great it was to be in such an awesome car with great handling and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: You have got to be fucking kidding....you just lost all credibility. He's his own entity...he would be popular with or without nascar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: Daves man crush is out of control. You don't even watch nascar..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Dave said: So Martins career win percentage is the same as jr's in cup but jr's just average.... interesting. Martin won late in his career. Even if Jr races 5 more years, I doubt he will end up with 40 cup wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Dave said: He's his own entity...he would be popular with or without nascar he'd be nothing without his dads name cause he isn't a great nascar driver. And I will agree Martin probably wasn;t a "great" he went through some good periods as did junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, ckf said: Martin won late in his career. Even if Jr races 5 more years, I doubt he will end up with 40 cup wins. You were wrong about him coming back....I'm sure that's not the last thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: he'd be nothing without his dads name cause he isn't a great nascar driver. And I will agree Martin probably wasn;t a "great" he went through some good periods as did junior Well according to John his stats are better then average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Angry ginger said: he'd be nothing without his dads name cause he isn't a great nascar driver. And I will agree Martin probably wasn;t a "great" he went through some good periods as did junior I didn't classify him as great either, that's reserved for Petty, Pearson, Warltrip (ugh), Senior, Gordon, Johnson and the likes. Martin was above average 1 minute ago, Dave said: You were wrong about him coming back....I'm sure that's not the last thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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