Art Vandelay

Nothing american about subsidizing the purchase of vehicles that have as their most valuable components rare earth materials mined by slave children at great environmental expense.

Cat really dropped the ball on the mountain sled starting in 2012. Going from the front runner to dead last.

That's good to hear since those guys haven't said a thing good about cat in a long time. I have a procross which I think was fine for an 18 but never liked the seating position. I wonder how those who like the procross seating position and the wind protection that go with it will like the catalyst? I think I'm going to stick with mine for a couple more years since I can't swing a new one at today's prices for a toy but I might try a different at least.

Lot of former cat people at Poo already. Maybe some would come back?

The EV tax credits unless changed recently are only available to people with large tax liabilities. As such it is only available to those with large incomes. So the poor subsidize the rich's vanity cars.

Mr can't handle an adult sized sled but liked the blast?

That was anticipated by many. Just a stepping stone job.

Lindsey Graham to date has not found a country he doesn't want to invade.

They need to get rid of people to switch over to the govt ordered electric utopia we are headed towards.

And I'm sure doo sends their managers in too on the yellow 120/200 days. The factory is like an open gym basketball court. Whoever has next gets to run the plant that day and make their sleds.

I think Yamaha likes to screw with their own customers. Last year they sold out quickly and will do the same this year. Dealers and customers want more product. Somehow textron and yamaha can't seem to get it done.

I'm sure your procross did too.

I'm still trying to picture how this works. Do they have days they let Yamaha run the line? Or does the guy call in the blue orders?

Heard they will have a retro look this year. Red and white. Maybe Cat will give them a 800 procross riot? Yami seems to like to introduce some minor tweak each year. Hard to see them putting a different engine in the old chassis. If Cat couldn't get the 800 together for the catalyst, they aren't going to be ready for a yamaha in it.

Nothing but procross left. One 7000, one 9000, the rest 8000. Mostly the mountain sleds.

Still one blast model left for ordering. No other kids sleds.

Are they going to make any for dealers to sell?

I saw a Cat branded one in January in the UP.

Yep, I'd prefer not to pay extra for it, and it's a hassle to deal with maintaining the battery. Plus you'd think if Cat was looking at every way to lose weight, that's an easy one. At least until the next lawsuit so they can get the SHOT thingy from doo. If it came down to paying for better shocks (say what they put on the sno pros around 2018 over the lxr ifp specials) or estart, I'd take the better shocks all day long.

I forgot they pick out colors too.

What does Yamaha head of production for snowmobiles do? Pick out decals?

More taxes and centralized control will fix the weather!

I've seen blast on the trails in the 3 years or so they've been out. They've sold out every year but that doesn't mean much since textron can't or won't make many of them. Agree they would sell a lot if they were allowed to sit on a dealer's floor. Family is up riding and wouldn't it be nice to get something newer for the kids to ride? I almost bought an evo one year in July that way. Wish I would have. I'm not a doo guy but I think the neo is a better concept at the price point but I haven't ridden either.

Yamaha's production line manager? So a textron employee?

Was kind of pissed when the rotors I ordered from rockauto were chinese, but with the shipping involved, I installed them anyway. Should have double checked ahead of time.