Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 18, 2018 Like I said it will be interesting how this goes. Think about how many people could sue over 9/11 alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Bullshit they want MONEY. Well with the money they can put up a fence to keep out the fucking retards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 50 minutes ago, Highmark said: Like I said it will be interesting how this goes. Think about how many people could sue over 9/11 alone. I would think that a case could be made that accusing the devastated parents of being actors would add to their suffering. That's a direct attack on them saying they suffered no loss and are making it up. It's a fucking cruel and stupid thing for Jones to do. Unless I misunderstand Ventura, he is just claiming that there was government involvement in 9/11. I think that would be different. Now if he outright accused a private individual of being part of 9/11 and named him, then that would be closer to the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, revkevsdi said: I would think that a case could be made that accusing the devastated parents of being actors would add to their suffering. That's a direct attack on them saying they suffered no loss and are making it up. It's a fucking cruel and stupid thing for Jones to do. Unless I misunderstand Ventura, he is just claiming that there was government involvement in 9/11. I think that would be different. Now if he outright accused a private individual of being part of 9/11 and named him, then that would be closer to the same thing. Maybe but in both instances the accuser is blaming the govt as the responsible party. More similarities there than you think. There are conspiracies that claim they were not commercial flights and nobody died on the planes. Not sure if that is what Ventura claims. I'm sure plenty of the victims families don't appreciate those saying the govt killed their loved one anymore than these parents do. Keep in mind not all states allow for anything beyond calculable damages from harm to one's reputation. They don't all allow for mental anguish and what not. Edited April 18, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Doesn't matter if what he is saying is cruel, mean, devastating. It does not reach the level of shouting fire in a crowded theater. When you start with silly little *hate speech type exceptions you always inch your way forward to ban. That is how it works. Amazing that people get so caught up in their ideology, bluie vs red, they cant see it for what it is. Edited April 18, 2018 by Cold War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, jtssrx said: Bullshit they want MONEY. I hope they get a lot of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, spin_dry said: I hope they get a lot of it. The joos? Win or lose ......they certainly will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Cold War said: Doesn't matter if what he is saying is cruel, mean, devastating. It does not reach the level of shouting fire in a crowded theater. When you start with silly little *hate speech type exceptions you always inch your way forward to ban. That is how it works. Amazing that people get so caught up in their ideology, bluie vs red, they cant see it for what it is. Let’s see if the courts agree with slander. I’m guessing it’s and easy snatch and grab by a good lawyer. All they need to prove is that jones profited from the lies he told about the families. Slam dunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, spin_dry said: Let’s see if the courts agree with slander. I’m guessing it’s and easy snatch and grab by a good lawyer. All they need to prove is that jones profited from the lies he told about the families. Slam dunk. I'm guessing you're right. Nothing is more sympathetic than a parent who has lost a young child. It is everyone's worst nightmare. Be careful for what you wish for though, this is dangerous territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Cold War said: I'm guessing you're right. Nothing is more sympathetic than a parent who has lost a young child. It is everyone's worst nightmare. Be careful for what you wish for though, this is dangerous territory. It’s not dangerous in the least. Scum bags like jones have been dealt with in the US courts for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 8 hours ago, spin_dry said: It’s not dangerous in the least. Scum bags like jones have been dealt with in the US courts for decades. Can't get you to see beyond Jones? That's fine, most Americans can't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, Cold War said: Can't get you to see beyond Jones? That's fine, most Americans can't either. This isn’t a free speech issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said: This isn’t a free speech issue Of course it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cold War said: Of course it is. All this is doing is giving credit to a conspiracy theorist that uses mean words to hurt feelings. Jones is basking in this media blitz and the extra $$$ it will bring him. He's Maddow without the numbers of idiots following him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cold War said: Of course it is. No it’s not. If he wasn’t targeting specific grieving families they wouldn’t have a case against him. It’s a libel/slander/defamation issue. He’s free to spew any nonsense he likes until he crosses that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: No it’s not. If he wasn’t targeting specific grieving families they wouldn’t have a case against him. It’s a libel/slander/defamation issue. He’s free to spew any nonsense he likes until he crosses that line. Those families put themselves in the public eye and are spouting their own rhetoric. It's fair game. Only a liberal court system left over from ObamaDayz will see this any other way. It's a money shakedown...that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Those families put themselves in the public eye and are spouting their own rhetoric. It's fair game. Only a liberal court system left over from ObamaDayz will see this any other way. It's a money shakedown...that's all. Wha? The shooter that killed their kids put them in the public eye...they didn’t ask for that, and Jones does not have the right to slander, defame and tell lies about them. Jesus Christ dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Those families put themselves in the public eye and are spouting their own rhetoric. It's fair game. Only a liberal court system left over from ObamaDayz will see this any other way. It's a money shakedown...that's all. Talk about a fucking warped view, holy shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, SSFB said: Talk about a fucking warped view, holy shit. How so? Are they on camera against their wills? Save me the IMA LIBERTARIAN bleeding heart bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Wha? The shooter that killed their kids put them in the public eye...they didn’t ask for that, and Jones does not have the right to slander, defame and tell lies about them. Jesus Christ dude The shooter did that, huh? Was he filming and producing from behind the grave? These parents turned into activists..and that's fine and just. But they don't get to cry "he hurts my feelings" when their feelings are hurt. "He is disgracing my dead childs legacy.." GMAFB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: How so? Are they on camera against their wills? Save me the IMA LIBERTARIAN bleeding heart bit. hes a millennial. nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: How so? Are they on camera against their wills? Save me the IMA LIBERTARIAN bleeding heart bit. They're just trying to get these fucking idiots to leave them alone and you think that it's fair to say that they put themselves in the public eye? That's a warped view. That second sentence literally makes zero sense. Libertarian =/= bleeding heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ATOMIC PUNK said: hes a millennial. nuff said Oh look, it's Atomic Derp. I'm about the furthest thing from a bleeding heart. Go ahead and give an example otherwise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ATOMIC PUNK said: hes a millennial. nuff said Librulz that won't admit it. I don't blame them though. Seems many here carry the same "we're all victims" attitude. SSFB and XLT are the only ones I see that at least stay consistant on somewhat of a viewpoint that is of any interest to me. Still....bleeding hearts tho. I'm fine with that to a certain degree...until they try to make me one. 1 minute ago, SSFB said: They're just trying to get these fucking idiots to leave them alone and you think that it's fair to say that they put themselves in the public eye? That's a warped view. That second sentence literally makes zero sense. Libertarian =/= bleeding heart Turn off his program then. He's a fucking nut-job. Why do they care so much about what people say about them? Seems they enjoy the extra grief and frustration. $20 bucks says they are glued to Maddow every evening. It makes sense to me. That's what I see here...a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: No it’s not. If he wasn’t targeting specific grieving families they wouldn’t have a case against him. It’s a libel/slander/defamation issue. He’s free to spew any nonsense he likes until he crosses that line. admittedly, I'm not following this closely. Do you have links of him calling specific parents by name? This is what he does. its his job, he created. Offering government false flag conspiracies. I don't like what he is saying, but I can easily see how this can be used to silence anyone questioning the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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