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6 hours ago, jtssrx said:

 

You really post some bullshit that makes your flat earth nonsense seem sane.

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At about 10:50 (local time) on 29 July, while preparing for the second strike of the day, an unguided 5.0 in (127.0 mm) Mk-32 "Zuni" rocket, one of four contained in an LAU-10 underwing rocket pod mounted on an F-4B Phantom II (believed to be aircraft No. 110 from VF-11[1]), accidentally fired due to an electrical power surge during the switch from external to internal power. The surge, and a missing rocket safety pin, which would have prevented the fail surge, as well as a decision to plug in the "pigtail" system early to increase the number of takeoffs from the carrier, allowed the rocket to launch.

The rocket flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on an A-4E Skyhawk awaiting launch,[1] aircraft No. 405 from VA-46, piloted by Lieutenant Commander Fred D. White.[2][13] The Zuni rocket's warhead safety mechanism prevented it from detonating, but the impact tore the tank off the wing and ignited the resulting spray of escaping JP-5 fuel, causing an instantaneous conflagration. Within seconds, other external fuel tanks on White's aircraft overheated and ruptured, releasing more jet fuel to feed the flames, which began spreading along the flight deck.

The impact of the rocket had also dislodged two of the 1000-lb AN-M65 bombs, which fell to the deck, and lay in the pool of burning fuel between White's aircraft and that of Lieutenant Commander John McCain. Damage Control Team No. 8 swung into action immediately, and Chief Gerald Farrier, recognizing the risk, and without the benefit of protective clothing, immediately smothered the bombs with a PKP fire extinguisher in an effort to knock down the fuel fire long enough to allow the pilots to escape. The pilots, still strapped into their aircraft, were immediately aware that a disaster was unfolding, but only some were able to escape in time. McCain, pilot of A-4 Skyhawk side No. 416, next to White's, was among the first to notice the flames, and escaped by scrambling down the nose of his A-4 and jumping off the refueling probe shortly before the explosions began.

Damage Control Team No. 8 had been assured of a 10-minute window in which to extinguish the fire and prevent the bombs from detonating, but the Composition B bombs proved to be just as unstable as the ordnance crews had initially feared; after only slightly more than one minute, despite Chief Farrier's constant efforts to cool the bombs, the casing of one suddenly split open and began to glow a bright red. The Chief, recognizing that a lethal cook-off was imminent, shouted for his team to withdraw, but the bomb detonated seconds later — one minute and 36 seconds after the start of the fire.[14]

The detonation destroyed White's and McCain's aircraft, along with their remaining fuel and ordnance, blew a crater in the armored flight deck, and sprayed the deck and crew with bomb fragments and burning fuel. Damage Control Team No. 8 took the brunt of the initial blast; Chief Farrier and all but three of his men were killed instantly; the survivors were critically injured. Lieutenant Commander White had managed to escape his burning aircraft, but was unable to get far enough away in time; White was killed along with the firefighters in the first bomb explosion. In the tightly packed formation on the deck, the two nearest A-4s to White's and McCain's (both fully fueled and bomb-laden) were heavily damaged and began to burn, causing the fire to spread and more bombs to quickly cook off.

Lieutenant Commander Herbert A. Hope of VA-46 (and operations officer of CVW-17) was far enough away to survive the first explosion, and managed to escape by jumping out of the cockpit of his Skyhawk and rolling off the flight deck and into the starboard man-overboard net. Making his way down below to the hangar deck, he took command of a firefighting team. "The port quarter of the flight deck where I was", he recalled, "is no longer there."[1] Two other pilots (Lieutenant Dennis M. Barton and Lieutenant Commander Gerry L. Stark) were also killed by explosions during this period, while the rest were able to escape their aircraft and get below deck.

Nine bomb explosions eventually occurred on the flight deck, eight caused by the AN-M65 Composition B bombs cooking off under the heat of the fuel fires, and the ninth occurring as a sympathetic detonation between an AN-M65 and a newer 500 lb M117 H6 bomb that it was lying next to on the deck. The other Composition H6-based bombs performed as designed and either burned on the deck or were jettisoned, but did not detonate under the heat of the fires.

The explosions (several of which were estimated as up to 50% more powerful than a standard 1000 lb bomb, due to the unintentionally-enhanced power of the badly degraded Composition B) tore large holes in the flight deck, causing burning jet fuel to drain into the interior of the ship, including the living quarters directly underneath the flight deck, and the below-decks aircraft hangar.

Sailors and Marines controlled the flight deck fires by 12:15, and continued to clear smoke and to cool hot steel on the 02 and 03 levels, until all fires were under control by 13:42. Assistance was provided by one of the ship's accompanying destroyers, USS Rupertus, which maneuvered around Forrestal, getting as close as 20 feet from the burning carrier, for 90 minutes using her own on-board fire hoses directed at the flight deck and hangar deck on the starboard side, and the port-side aft 5-in. mount.[15] The commanding officer of the Rupertus, Commander Edwin Burke,[16] received praise for what Rear Admiral Harvey P. Lanham, aboard Forrestal as the Task Group commander, called an "act of magnificent seamanship".[15] The fire was not declared defeated until 04:00 the next morning, due to additional flare-ups.[1]

Throughout the day, the ship’s medical staff worked in dangerous conditions to assist their comrades. HM2 Paul Streetman, one of 38 corpsmen assigned to the Forrestal, spent over 11 hours on the mangled flight deck tending to his shipmates. The large number of casualties quickly overwhelmed the ship’s medical teams, and the Forrestal was escorted by USS Henry W. Tucker to rendezvous with hospital ship USS Repose at 20:54, allowing the crew to begin transferring the dead and wounded at 22:53.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

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1 hour ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

You fucking retard... The Forrestal thing is a farce. The rest of it, a farce. You sit here and quote this shit like it is fact calling him a shitty pilot when the vast majority of it and the context is a lie. Let me ask you this... Where did you serve you? I have no respect for people who want to talk about people being bad soldiers/airmen/marines/etc when they didn't even fucking serve. Shut the fuck up lololol. What a moron. Go find some more youtube videos validating your opinion you brain dead fuck hahahaha. 

What is really mind blowing is the empty skulls who followed along with his bullshit post like it was gospel.

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43 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

What is really mind blowing is the empty skulls who followed along with his bullshit post like it was gospel.

It's the issue of advanced civilization. Guys like jtssrx would have died off in some third world country time or in the not so distant past. Unfortunately these morons thrive in our society. Free rider syndrome to the maximum max. I used to think, ok he thinks the earth is flat, maybe he isn't an utter retard in all things though. I was :wrong: 

Don't get me wrong, I am no McCain fan... but I hate the slanderous bs that he gets about his service. It's the epitome of weakness. They don't agree but can't fault his convictions (be they wrong or right) so they attack him at a deeply personal level. It's disgusting. Fuck @jtssrx.. Fucking retarded coward. 

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3 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

It's the issue of advanced civilization. Guys like jtssrx would have died off in some third world country time or in the not so distant past. Unfortunately these morons thrive in our society. Free rider syndrome to the maximum max. I used to think, ok he thinks the earth is flat, maybe he isn't an utter retard in all things though. I was :wrong: 

Don't get me wrong, I am no McCain fan... but I hate the slanderous bs that he gets about his service. It's the epitome of weakness. They don't agree but can't fault his convictions (be they wrong or right) so they attack him at a deeply personal level. It's disgusting. Fuck @jtssrx.. Fucking retarded coward. 

:bc: Yep - I don't agree with McCain on many issues but I respect his service, personal biography, and convictions on certain issues.  Torture like waterboarding for example - never could understand how someone can support a pussy like Dump or Cheney's position on the issue while disrespecting McCain. 

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2 hours ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

You fucking retard... The Forrestal thing is a farce. The rest of it, a farce. You sit here and quote this shit like it is fact calling him a shitty pilot when the vast majority of it and the context is a lie. Let me ask you this... Where did you serve you? I have no respect for people who want to talk about people being bad soldiers/airmen/marines/etc when they didn't even fucking serve. Shut the fuck up lololol. What a moron. Go find some more youtube videos validating your opinion you brain dead fuck hahahaha. 

You dont know  me or anything about me. But you run your trap because of a handfull of posts I made. 

 

For the record I served in the USMC. I went to boot camp June 92. I went to my final duty station February 1993, after finishing my MOS training. I was injured on a field shoot 6 weeks after arriving and was forced out on a medical discharge. 

 

Where did you serve??

 

regardless if this is true or not McCain is a piece of shit. He ran on Obamacare repeal and huddled with Democrats before and after voting to kill the Skinny Repeal. 

 

Fuck him and fuck you big mouth 

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13 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

It's the issue of advanced civilization. Guys like jtssrx would have died off in some third world country time or in the not so distant past. Unfortunately these morons thrive in our society. Free rider syndrome to the maximum max. I used to think, ok he thinks the earth is flat, maybe he isn't an utter retard in all things though. I was :wrong: 

Don't get me wrong, I am no McCain fan... but I hate the slanderous bs that he gets about his service. It's the epitome of weakness. They don't agree but can't fault his convictions (be they wrong or right) so they attack him at a deeply personal level. It's disgusting. Fuck @jtssrx.. Fucking retarded coward. 

I supported McCain in 2000 and 2008, fuckin Carl Rove swiftboated him in 2000, and then 2008 when I heard Palin after the convention I was like what the fuck???

In any event there isn't a politician who has balls like McCain, we will probably never see another US Senator walking down the streets in a war zones like Syria and Libya like McCain did, and at the end of the day he went thumbs down on what was a shitty bill at time in his life when medical care was front and center, God Bless John McCain for being who he is!

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6 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

:bc: Yep - I don't agree with McCain on many issues but I respect his service, personal biography, and convictions on certain issues.  Torture like waterboarding for example - never could understand how someone can support a pussy like Dump or Cheney's position on the issue while disrespecting McCain. 

You fucking liar.  Amazing.  No self reflection but plenty of self respect.

Fucking coward.

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2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

I supported McCain in 2000 and 2008, fuckin Carl Rove swiftboated him in 2000, and then 2008 when I heard Palin after the convention I was like what the fuck???

In any event there isn't a politician who has balls like McCain, we will probably never see another US Senator walking down the streets in a war zones like Syria and Libya like McCain did, and at the end of the day he went thumbs down on what was a shitty bill at time in his life when medical care was front and center, God Bless John McCain for being who he is!

McCain is a fucking piece of garbage fuck him

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1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said:

I supported McCain in 2000 and 2008, fuckin Carl Rove swiftboated him in 2000, and then 2008 when I heard Palin after the convention I was like what the fuck???

In any event there isn't a politician who has balls like McCain, we will probably never see another US Senator walking down the streets in a war zones like Syria and Libya like McCain did, and at the end of the day he thumbs down on what was a shitty bill at time in his life when medical care was front and center, God Bless John McCain for being who he is!

I supported him 2008 and I do hope this brain cancer doesn't get him. I also don't blame him for his vote or for taking shots at Trump.

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4 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

You fucking liar.  Amazing.  No self reflection but plenty of self respect.

Fucking coward.

You're the only coward in the thread :snack:  

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8 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

McCain is a fucking piece of garbage fuck him

I disagree.  He's just too old to be in public service anymore.  And he's seemingly forgotten why we shouldn't be waging war.  Which is astonishing to me.  What he did while in POW camps was truly heroic.  That cannot be taken away.

8 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

He supports McCain because hes a democrat 

He supports anybody that he thinks will let him be a part of something.  He's a fraud, an idiot, a liar and a coward.

5 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

You're the only coward in the thread :snack:  

Prove it.  Come on...man up little bitch!  Show me.  Show everyone here you can talk the talk AND walk the walk.  Impress everybody.  That's what you are after...correct?  You aren't going to get that just running your idiot face.

Fucking chinless coward.

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Just now, Biggie Smails said:

Why exactly do you say that? 

Number one he was a big part of the creation of ISIS in Libya which was meant to destabilize the country. From there ISIS has been used as a tool in Iraq and Syria. 

 

McCain is a neocon RINO who is bought and paid for by the military industrial complex.

McCain is only a republican when reelection time rolls around 

McCain ran on Obamacare repeal. He voted multiple tines to repeal the law. When he had a chance to start the repeal he votes it down because of a personal beef with Trump. So he fucks over his  constituents and the rest of the American people over a beef with trump. 

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4 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said:

I supported him 2008 and I do hope this brain cancer doesn't get him. I also don't blame him for his vote or for taking shots at Trump.

McCain took the heat off a lot of Republicans with that thumbs down, there were a number of red state Republican governors who have a lot of folks on Obamacare.

 

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States Won by Trump Have Highest 'Obamacare' Enrollment

A record number of people signed up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act for the coming year, Barack Obama's administration announced Wednesday, with the most people selecting coverage in states that Donald Trump won in November.

Some 6.4 million people signed up by the mid-December deadline — 400,000 more enrollees than the same period last year, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

In a twist, the states with the most people selecting coverage all went for Trump in the presidential election: Florida, with just under 1.3 million selections; Texas, with about 776,000; North Carolina, with 369,077; Georgia, with 352,000; and Pennsylvania, with 290,950.

Those tallies do not include states that created their own digital health insurance exchanges, like New York and California, instead of using the federal government's HealthCare.gov website.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/states-won-trump-highest-obamacare-enrollment/story?id=44344734

 

 

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Just now, jtssrx said:

Number one he was a big part of the creation of ISIS in Libya which was meant to destabilize the country. From there ISIS has been used as a tool in Iraq and Syria. 

 

McCain is a neocon RINO who is bought and paid for by the military industrial complex.

McCain is only a republican when reelection time rolls around 

McCain ran on Obamacare repeal. He voted multiple tines to repeal the law. When he had a chance to start the repeal he votes it down because of a personal beef with Trump. So he fucks over his  constituents and the rest of the American people over a beef with trump. 

Well maybe now dipshit Trump will STFU once in awhile.

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2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

I disagree.  He's just too old to be in public service anymore.  And he's seemingly forgotten why we shouldn't be waging war.  Which is astonishing to me.  What he did while in POW camps was truly heroic.  That cannot be taken away.

He supports anybody that he thinks will let him be a part of something.  He's a fraud, an idiot, a liar and a coward.

Prove it.  Come on...man up little bitch!  Show me.  Show everyone here you can talk the talk AND walk the walk.  Impress everybody.  That's what you are after...correct?  You aren't going to get that just running your idiot face.

Fucking chinless coward.

You mad? :lmao: 

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Just now, Biggie Smails said:

Well maybe now dipshit Trump will STFU once in awhile.

I hope he keeps it up :bc: He's drinking the swamp and replacing it with his extended familY. :lmao: 

 

Holy shit did some of you fucks get played :lol: 

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Just now, SnowRider said:

I hope he keeps it up :bc: He's drinking the swamp and replacing it with his extended familY. :lmao: 

 

Holy shit did some of you fucks get played :lol: 

Still better then Hillary...

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1 minute ago, SnowRider said:

I hope he keeps it up :bc: He's drinking the swamp and replacing it with his extended familY. :lmao: 

 

Holy shit did some of you fucks get played :lol: 

No matter what...and this is gonna hurt, he'll always better that your traitorous lying bitch.  ALWAYS.

Poor thing.  You don't have to live like this though.  Remember that.

 

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