Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Just now, Roosting said: fill me in as to how you understand it with your own words Read the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Read the link. you can't comprehend the link so I need to read it? Edited March 12 by Roosting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Just now, Roosting said: you can comprehend the link so I need to read it? Read F7bens link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Read F7bens link Now you know how his teachers feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Steve753 said: Read F7bens link Try pressing that soft spot on your head and voice to text what blurts out of your mouth. It might be the most intelligent thing you post in this thread. seriously 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 27 minutes ago, Highmark said: If a vehicle has a turbo and utilizes it to increase manifold pressure at any given time during operation then its turbocharged. Nope , it’s normalized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 Just now, HSR said: Now you know how his teachers feel. I've stayed out of the topic for the most part. It says right in his link the turbo normalized motor is different. There is more to it than just adding boost to distinguish it as a turbo charger and not a normalizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Nope , it’s normalized What normalizes it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, Roosting said: Try pressing that soft spot on your head and voice to text what blurts out of your mouth. It might be the most intelligent thing you post in this thread. seriously K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Highmark said: What normalizes it? A turbocharger , how about if I install a turbo and wire the wastegate open so it could never make any boost. Is it still turbocharged or did I just install another muffler? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Steve753 said: K press harder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: What normalizes it? 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: A turbocharger Exactly Shut 'er down Doug!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 26 minutes ago, Rod said: Still trying to figure out how 170 hp is a lot more power than 170 hp You do know a N/A only makes 170 at sea level or with a correction factor. It doesn't make 170 anywhere in the real sledding world. Just magazines where you and Ben get your info from. The turbo makes 170 in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 42 minutes ago, Highmark said: If a vehicle has a turbo and utilizes it to increase manifold pressure at any given time during operation then its turbocharged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, HSR said: You’re dumb as fuck lol and triggered to the max. Poor queef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: A turbocharger , how about if I install a turbo and wire the wastegate open so it could never make any boost. Is it still turbocharged or did I just install another muffler? Highmark ^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, Steve753 said: I've stayed out of the topic for the most part. It says right in his link the turbo normalized motor is different. There is more to it than just adding boost to distinguish it as a turbo charger and not a normalizer. No , that is an example of what that specific company may change. The reason I posted the link was to illustrate they are two distinct designs. Quit being a know nothing dumbfuck retard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: No , that is an example of what that specific company may change. The reason I posted the link was to illustrate they are two distinct designs. Quit being a know nothing dumbfuck retard I've seen it in many links. It's the main difference and really the only one between normalizing and charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Poor Ben , just stay down bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, Steve753 said: I've seen it in many links. It's the main difference and really the only one between normalizing and charged. Omg you’re dumb lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 (edited) 34 minutes ago, f7ben said: Highmark ^^^^ Can you give me an example of that? My example at some point changes manifold pressure with the use of exhaust gases driving a turbo impeller. The pure definition of turbocharging. Ben I get what you are saying but your hatred of how Skidoo was doing the first turbo mountain sled does not change what it was doing. Increasing manifold pressure by the use of exhaust gases driving a turbo. The level of pressurization need not matter as long as it be greater than what would naturally be available. Go ahead and sue BRP for faulty advertising and see if you win. Edited March 12 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Omg you’re dumb lol Nobody here thinks you're dumb Ben. We know you just have bad luck when it comes to thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: Can you give me an example of that? My example at some point changes manifold pressure with the use of exhaust gases driving a turbo impeller. The pure definition of turbocharging. Ben I get what you are saying but your hatred of how Skidoo was doing the first turbo mountain sled does not change what it was doing. Increasing manifold pressure by the use of exhaust gases driving a turbo. The level of pressurization need not matter. Go ahead and sue BRP for faulty advertising and see if you win. I’m simply saying , turbo normalizing and turbo charging are two different things. The terms were put into common industry nomenclature by the aircraft industry who were the pioneers of commercial turbo use. What skidoo did in 2020 is a text book definition of turbo normalizing. What they did in 2021 is a text book definition of turbocharging. It’s not hard to concede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, HSR said: Nobody here thinks you're dumb Ben. We know you just have bad luck when it comes to thinking Except I’m correct and you’re not ….again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 12 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 12 (edited) Wiki but still defines it correctly. Techically every foot of elevation changes atmospheric pressure very small amount. In a naturally aspirated engine, air for combustion (Diesel cycle in a diesel engine or specific types of Otto cycle in petrol engines, namely petrol direct injection) or an air/fuel mixture (traditional Otto cycle petrol engines), is drawn into the engine's cylinders by atmospheric pressure acting against a partial vacuum that occurs as the piston travels downwards toward bottom dead centre during the intake stroke. Owing to innate restriction in the engine's inlet tract, which includes the intake manifold, a small pressure drop occurs as air is drawn in, resulting in a volumetric efficiency of less than 100 percent—and a less than complete air charge in the cylinder. The density of the air charge, and therefore the engine's maximum theoretical power output, in addition to being influenced by induction system restriction, is also affected by engine speed and atmospheric pressure, the latter of which decreases as the operating altitude increases. This is in contrast to a forced-induction engine, in which a mechanically driven supercharger or an exhaust-driven turbocharger is employed to facilitate increasing the mass of intake air beyond what could be produced by atmospheric pressure alone. Edited March 12 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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