Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 27, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 9:02 AM, EvilBird said: Yeah looks like back then they were top 5 in China ...now 14th or so . Almost 700K units there is still very significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 What doesn't make sense to me is why GM would be using the Buick brand to push EVs so hard? The Buick demographic is going to be the last ones to change from gas to electric. Their buyers have had gas vehicles for 40+ years, are getting older, and aren't likely to adapt to a new technology. Good article in the WSJ today. EVs are stacking up on dealer lots with 60+ days of inventory. There will be lower cost EVs coming in 2025 but manufactures are already having profitability problems selling the high end EVs. Tesla is going to mop the floor with the legacy vehicle manufacturers. Think of the carry costs on a $50k+ EV at 60+ days compared to Tesla's direct consumer purchases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 27, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted December 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said: What doesn't make sense to me is why GM would be using the Buick brand to push EVs so hard? The Buick demographic is going to be the last ones to change from gas to electric. Their buyers have had gas vehicles for 40+ years, are getting older, and aren't likely to adapt to a new technology. Good article in the WSJ today. EVs are stacking up on dealer lots with 60+ days of inventory. There will be lower cost EVs coming in 2025 but manufactures are already having profitability problems selling the high end EVs. Tesla is going to mop the floor with the legacy vehicle manufacturers. Think of the carry costs on a $50k+ EV at 60+ days compared to Tesla's direct consumer purchases. Ya as much as they tried the past decade or more to make Buick seem hip to younger buyers I dont think it is working. Still say Pontiac should of been kept instead screw China lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Ya as much as they tried the past decade or more to make Buick seem hip to younger buyers I dont think it is working. Still say Pontiac should of been kept instead screw China lol . Pontiac would have been a good brand for EVs. Buick is really redundant with Cadillac anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) I don't know a single person under the age of 60 who owns a Buick. I take that back, I know one guy with a Grand National hobby car and a college kid driving a Lacrosse he got when his grandma died. Edited December 27, 2023 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 10:36 AM, Rod said: Dang 📸 Look at this post on Facebook https://www.autoblog.com/2023/12/20/nearly-half-of-buick-dealers-choose-buyout-over-investing-to-sell-evs/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016&fbclid=IwAR2E-6jBnLZnGX5qdATcD9BzpUH16LqCWIrmHrplPAw0iFf-dQyYe6sbmAI_aem_AbO6xQXIKxyRZ_OnWyv6Uwbp-HHFIWWIYNwB3UTbaZJvwpBMhkyPXFEAPUBfCsG5p1c Dang, GM sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 lots of gals driving encores! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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