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Boered Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, motonoggin said: If it is so easy to exploit all these so called victims, why are you not doing it? Are you above operating a for profit business? Most workers in this society have it pretty good. Life is made easy, if you are working 60 hours per week for 35 per hour, I would say you are an idiot that is wasting his life, be happy with less and enjoy your time a little more, but some are happy working those hours and do so by choice not need. Who are you to tell us all we should be disgruntled, or are you the voice of the marginalized in society that are unable to find success in the system in which we live? Perhaps you are the marginalized, at the very least you are depressed and hate life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, motonoggin said: It should be the full value of your production. The average $20/hr worker produces $200/hr worth of goods and services. The $180 difference is called 'profit' but it's really just the proceeds of theft from the worker. And how bourgeoisie are you if you have a fucking housekeeper? Sounds like there's a cold cinder block wall in your future.. Cause we both work and could care less to spend 4 hours a week cleaning house. Let me guess someone else does it for you. Oh they are getting the full value of their production not mine. Edited May 21, 2017 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Cause we both work and could care less to spend 4 hours a week cleaning house. Let me guess someone else does it for you. Oh they are getting the full value of their production not mine. You're not getting the full value of your production. Bank on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) It's somewhat difficult to debate capitalism with people who really don't understand it but nevertheless feel compelled to defend it rather than question it. Edited May 21, 2017 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, motonoggin said: You're not getting the full value of your production. Bank on it. Oh someone is profitting off of what i do, the horror. Is the cleaner getting full value or the landscaper? Who is profitting from them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Oh someone is profitting off of what i do, the horror. Is the cleaner getting full value or the landscaper? Who is profitting from them? This statement shows you've been cucked by capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, motonoggin said: It's somewhat difficult to debate capitalism with people who really don't understand it but nevertheless feel compelled to defend it rather than question it. In your world why would anyone have any motivation to progress anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: In your world why would anyone have any motivation to progress anything. People won't work unless they're threatened with starvation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: People won't work unless they're threatened with starvation? Why would Henry Ford take the risk in designing and building cars if there was nothing for him. The ones starving would still be starving the same, now there lives are pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, motonoggin said: This statement shows you've been cucked by capitalism. Cant answer the second part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Why would Henry Ford take the risk in designing and building cars if there was nothing for him. The ones starving would still be starving the same, now there lives are pretty good. Even Ford understood that you have to pay your workers enough to buy the commodities you produce. That's been lost on today's capitalists. Speaking of Ford... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 How can I exploit hungry people for their labor if no one is hungry??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Even Ford understood that you have to pay your workers enough to buy the commodities you produce. That's been lost on today's capitalists. Speaking of Ford... He did it to make money and did not give his employees all the profits, so lets stay on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Done for now, check back later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: He did it to make money and did not give his employees all the profits, so lets stay on topic. No, of course he didn't give them all the profits, jesus fucking christ. Will you fucking quit with the strawmen? He did give them a larger share of their production than what was normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Done for now, check back later. Maybe go brush up on how capitalism actually operates before you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: He did it to make money and did not give his employees all the profits, so lets stay on topic. Ford was also a staunch supporter of the Nazis. A national socialist party. Do you know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: Maybe go brush up on how capitalism actually operates before you do. Ive embraced it. Perhaps you should start living as you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Anler said: Ford was also a staunch supporter of the Nazis. A national socialist party. Do you know why? Do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Ive embraced it. Perhaps you should start living as you believe. Of course you have, because it's easier to go along to get along. Like sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Do tell. You should look it up yourself because anything I say is just anti Jew rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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