spin_dry Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Oh so it’s our fault. Obama tried playing nice with Iran and that proved to be a failure. Exactly. We know what’s Irans endgame is. Israel is not going to lay down. I hope they destroy Hezbollah and Hamas. Then maybe the UN can come in and make themselves useful and install a peaceful government. And if Iran starts tossing rockets, Israel destroys them too. Fundamentalist Islam is the issue here. You can’t let a country like Iran have nukes. They won’t hesitate to use them. And how much hand wringing is the civilized world going to have if a couple million Israelis die? Not much from what I can see. Obama’s work with Iran was a success. Iran ceased all production of enriched uranium as verified by international inspectors. There’s no telling what they’re doing now as Trump fucked that up. Obama also began to stabilize and worked toward normalizing relations with Cuba. Trump fucked that up as well. Don’t let the facts get in your way of your right wing talking points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 I don't think there is any doubt Israel is responding with kid gloves at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: I don't think there is any doubt Israel is responding with kid gloves at the moment. And what represents not responding with kid gloves? Nuclear weapons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: I don't think there is any doubt Israel is responding with kid gloves at the moment. 6000 bombs in a tightly packed urban area in 120 hours is kid gloves? I mean I guess they didn’t make us nuke the place for them so there is that level of restraint Edited October 23, 2023 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Obama’s work with Iran was a success. Iran ceased all production of enriched uranium as verified by international inspectors. There’s no telling what they’re doing now as Trump fucked that up. Obama also began to stabilize and worked toward normalizing relations with Cuba. Trump fucked that up as well. Don’t let the facts get in your way of your right wing talking points You actually believe Iran allowed the inspectors to all locations? https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-un-inspectors-b82c92ea64f79c1e67dc2bd870cc7829 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, f7ben said: 6000 bombs in a tightly packed urban area in 120 hours is kid gloves? I mean I guess they didn’t make us nuke the place for them so there is that level of restraint Considering their capabilities....yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: And what represents not responding with kid gloves? Nuclear weapons? More destruction and not warning them where and what they are going to bomb. Not waiting for evacuation to safe zones. A quicker ground assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Highmark said: I don't think there is any doubt Israel is responding with kid gloves at the moment. I used to think that way too. That they were very powerful. After that pathetic attack on them happened I'm starting to think its more propaganda. Even without using nukes they should be able to clean up Hamas without killing every one else in their way(elderly,women,children). They appear to be just a savage as their counterparts and not a surgical military but rather a blunt sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: You actually believe Iran allowed the inspectors to all locations? https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-un-inspectors-b82c92ea64f79c1e67dc2bd870cc7829 The same was said about Saddam. Some people just never learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, HSR said: I used to think that way too. That they were very powerful. After that pathetic attack on them happened I'm starting to think its more propaganda. Even without using nukes they should be able to clean up Hamas without killing very one else in their way. They appear to be just a savage as their counterparts and not a surgical military but rather a blunt sword. Bullshit. Hamas hides amongst the "civilian" population. They don't wear uniforms and don't have designated military facilities. Not easy to fight that without collateral damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: The same was said about Saddam. Some people just never learn If you were Iran would you stop making them? I wouldn't. Edited October 23, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Bullshit. Hamas hides amongst the "civilian" population. They don't wear uniforms and don't have designated military facilities. Not easy to fight that without collateral damage. They don't appear to be trying to avoid collateral damage and that's not right. Mossad apparently hide among us too, what are we doing about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, f7ben said: My position would be we deserve it for creating those groups in the first place Seems to me....something happened in the 40's that prompted the creation of the Jewish state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: If you were Iran would you stop making them? I wouldn't. The same was said about Saddam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HSR said: They don't appear to be trying to avoid collateral damage and that's not right. Mossad apparently hide among us too, what are we doing about that? First they haven't attacked us and we should have secured our southern border far, far greater than we have. We have no idea what Israel is trying to avoid. As stated above with the enemy intentionally mixing in with the civilian population its impossible to avoid. Lots of propaganda coming from both sides as well. What is worse the group who hides amongst its people knowing they will die or the group who has to attack them to win? Everybody spies on everybody dude. Obama actually tried to financially impact their elections. Edited October 23, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The same was said about Saddam. Iran didn't just come out from getting their ass kicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Seems to me....something happened in the 40's that prompted the creation of the Jewish state. Try again retard , the Balfour declaration preceded that by a significant amount of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: First they haven't attacked us and we should have secured our southern border far, far greater than we have. We have no idea what Israel is trying to avoid. As stated above with the enemy intentionally mixing in with the civilian population its impossible to avoid. Lots of propaganda coming from both sides as well. What is worse the group who hides amongst its people knowing they will die or the group who has to attack them to win? They have indeed attacked us and we’re caught red handed doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, f7ben said: They have indeed attacked us and we’re caught red handed doing it Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Link. https://theintercept.com/2017/06/06/fifty-years-later-nsa-keeps-details-of-israels-uss-liberty-attack-secret/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: Try again retard , the Balfour declaration preceded that by a significant amount of time Fuck off retard...it wasn't until the atrocities of ww2 that the declaration had any teeth and the Jewish state was officially recognized. Edited October 23, 2023 by SkisNH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, SkisNH said: Fuck off retard...it wasn't until the atrocities of ww2 that the declaration had any teeth. Derrrd derrrp derp ….. fucking moron. You got PWND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, f7ben said: Derrrd derrrp derp ….. fucking moron. You got PWND https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel Read the first sentance..."although" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, SkisNH said: https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel Read the first sentance..."although" Kill yourself and then I’ll read it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Kill yourself and then I’ll read it Suicide is for weak losers such as yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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