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We've had two E/C in Anchorage for shutdowns. We trucked the engine up to there.

I remember reading about that Swissair E/C and was glad it wasn't me going.

We just did one yesterday  and another about two weeks ago in YYZ. Usually takes us a day and a half. But us pansies in YYZ do it in a nice warm hangar.  

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Wait a couple of years,  global warming should fix that nasty cold.

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1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Wait a couple of years,  global warming should fix that nasty cold.

Does that mean I won't need a new belted snow suit after all?

6 minutes ago, Poncho said:

Does that mean I won't need a new belted snow suit after all?

Thought you rode naked .....

19 minutes ago, StevieWonder said:

Thought you rode naked .....

It's called " Canadian Commando ".........

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51 minutes ago, Poncho said:

Does that mean I won't need a new belted snow suit after all?

Depends? Are you dressing for style, substance, functionality?

Depends ? Puzzler told me Depends are warm, when wet. The belt must help to keep the heat from rising. 

Everyone needs a belted coat.....

3 hours ago, Poncho said:

Does that mean I won't need a new belted snow suit after all?

Poor Fuzzy.  Sounds like the ol' lady was a bit aggressive with the strap-on last night....... still reeling with butthurt.

 

2 hours ago, Frostynuts said:

Depends ? Puzzler told me Depends are warm, when wet. The belt must help to keep the heat from rising. 

Lol , Strap on Sally !!!!! 

22 hours ago, 2strokemerc said:

We've had two E/C in Anchorage for shutdowns. We trucked the engine up to there.

I remember reading about that Swissair E/C and was glad it wasn't me going.

We just did one yesterday  and another about two weeks ago in YYZ. Usually takes us a day and a half. But us pansies in YYZ do it in a nice warm hangar.  

Why would they truck it? Too expensive to air ship? Is 747 only plane to hang one on the wing to get it there?

It would depend on where the replacement was coming from.  And yep, air shipping (on wing) is very spendy.  Especially with no passenger load. 

3 hours ago, gtserider said:

Why would they truck it? Too expensive to air ship? Is 747 only plane to hang one on the wing to get it there?

From YYZ to Anchorage by truck, probably thirty thousand dollars. I believe AC used the Antonov once for something and the price was much higher. The engine can be loaded and sent on it's way in a few hours. Send the guys and equipment, by the time everything gets organized it could be two days. Truck is half way there. Then by the time the old engine is on the ground the truck arrives. If truck is still not there the guys spend a day or two in the hotel and wait. Still cheaper than flying the engine on the Antonov.

 

The 747 is the only airplane I know of that has what is called the "fifth pod". There has to be provision built into the wing at the factory so an engine can be hung and transported that way.

 

 

1 hour ago, 2strokemerc said:

From YYZ to Anchorage by truck, probably thirty thousand dollars. I believe AC used the Antonov once for something and the price was much higher. The engine can be loaded and sent on it's way in a few hours. Send the guys and equipment, by the time everything gets organized it could be two days. Truck is half way there. Then by the time the old engine is on the ground the truck arrives. If truck is still not there the guys spend a day or two in the hotel and wait. Still cheaper than flying the engine on the Antonov.

 

The 747 is the only airplane I know of that has what is called the "fifth pod". There has to be provision built into the wing at the factory so an engine can be hung and transported that way.

 

 

Air India had a 'pod' and an engine--nothing to do with it's demise. I wonder if Puss has a pod on his doo.

Of course it had a pod AND an engine..... did you think they were going to dispatch on 3 engines and a pod? 

All new 850 Etecs have it..... so they can carry a spare short block, a fire extinguisher, and a spare bulkhead. 

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22 minutes ago, Puzzleboy said:

Of course it had a pod AND an engine..... did you think they were going to dispatch on 3 engines and a pod? 

All new 850 Etecs have it..... so they can carry a spare short block, a fire extinguisher, and a spare bulkhead. 

Nice to know that Bombardier engineering department is thinking ahead. Might need that stuff on the trail.

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2 hours ago, 2strokemerc said:

From YYZ to Anchorage by truck, probably thirty thousand dollars. I believe AC used the Antonov once for something and the price was much higher. The engine can be loaded and sent on it's way in a few hours. Send the guys and equipment, by the time everything gets organized it could be two days. Truck is half way there. Then by the time the old engine is on the ground the truck arrives. If truck is still not there the guys spend a day or two in the hotel and wait. Still cheaper than flying the engine on the Antonov.

 

The 747 is the only airplane I know of that has what is called the "fifth pod". There has to be provision built into the wing at the factory so an engine can be hung and transported that way.

 

 

If is was an old 747 or any other four engine jet they could have ferried it out empty on three but that is no longer an option with two engines....

Yeah, except Air India was full of passengers....

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6 minutes ago, Puzzleboy said:

Yeah, except Air India was full of passengers....

And that would matter....lol

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4 hours ago, 2strokemerc said:

From YYZ to Anchorage by truck, probably thirty thousand dollars. I believe AC used the Antonov once for something and the price was much higher. The engine can be loaded and sent on it's way in a few hours. Send the guys and equipment, by the time everything gets organized it could be two days. Truck is half way there. Then by the time the old engine is on the ground the truck arrives. If truck is still not there the guys spend a day or two in the hotel and wait. Still cheaper than flying the engine on the Antonov.

 

The 747 is the only airplane I know of that has what is called the "fifth pod". There has to be provision built into the wing at the factory so an engine can be hung and transported that way.

 

 

In this case Swiss used the Antonov to deliver the engine, it was the only option in Iqaluit.  In Anchorage ground works.

18 minutes ago, Poncho said:

In this case Swiss used the Antonov to deliver the engine, it was the only option in Iqaluit.  In Anchorage ground works.

I concur.

It did to the Indians.......

16 hours ago, Poncho said:

And that would matter....lol

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Had lunch with my dad today and we talked about the amount of three engine ferry flights he has done during his career at Trans Canada Airlines/Air Canada.  I had an old picture he took, late 1950's out the window of Vickers Viscount he ferried home from Cleveland on three engines.....that is the number four engine shutdown and feathered.

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1 minute ago, Poncho said:

Had lunch with my dad today and we talked about the amount of three engine ferry flights he has done during his career at Trans Canada Airlines/Air Canada.  I had an old picture he took, late 1950's out the window of Vickers Viscount he ferried home from Cleveland on three engines.....that is the number four engine shutdown and feathered.

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Dad still flying? I'm guessing not,but what age did he fly too.

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He flew with TCA/Air Canada 1951 until 1991, in those days 60 was retirement. He then flew the Lancaster at Hamilton until 2006 retiring as the worlds oldest Lancaster pilot, he did his last solo flight in 2011 at 81.  He now flies with me.  He flew 30000 hrs and since 1948 and never bent one airplane.  Not bad I'd say....

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