Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Working both sites on this one eh Spindy? It will be interesting how the states(that have legal rec and med use) respond to this as i think it has been going well for them and Im sure they dont want to give it up. There could be some serious legal battles with the states and the fed. Not to mention alot of big corps are getting into it. Will be alot of money to fight the fed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, Anler said: Working both sites on this one eh Spindy? It will be interesting how the states(that have legal rec and med use) respond to this as i think it has been going well for them and Im sure they dont want to give it up. There could be some serious legal battles with the states and the fed. Not to mention alot of big corps are getting into it. Will be alot of money to fight the fed. the trump administration is pushing for the privatization of the entire prison system. there's some backs to be scratched here. this idea runs a lot deeper than "reefer madness" ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: the trump administration is pushing for the privatization of the entire prison system. there's some backs to be scratched here. this idea runs a lot deeper than "reefer madness" ideology. Great more good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 53 minutes ago, spin_dry said: the trump administration is pushing for the privatization of the entire prison system. there's some backs to be scratched here. this idea runs a lot deeper than "reefer madness" ideology. Privatization of law enforcement is a serious conflict of interest and shouldnt even be entertained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: Privatization of law enforcement is a serious conflict of interest and shouldnt even be entertained. trump's DOJ has already overridden obama's path to eliminate private prisons. they're going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, spin_dry said: trump's DOJ has already overridden obama's path to eliminate private prisons. they're going to happen. Giving it back to the people. Certain people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 Horrible fucking idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 Reality is its time to change the federal laws. You cannot say you want to enforce all immigration laws and not enforce fed drug laws. Be consistent, say you want the laws change but as POTUS you must enforce the laws on the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: Reality is its time to change the federal laws. You cannot say you want to enforce all immigration laws and not enforce fed drug laws. Be consistent, say you want the laws change but as POTUS you must enforce the laws on the books. When states have laws that directly contradict with federal laws. Yeah the feds need to back the fuck off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Anler said: When states have laws that directly contradict with federal laws. Yeah the feds need to back the fuck off. Depends on which laws take precedence. I'm all for states rights but there are certain things the Constitution leaves to the Fed govt. For example states that pass anti gay marriage laws. Pot is one that should be up to the states in my book but if current law says fed govt has jurisdiction then it needs to be challenged in the courts or the laws changed. POTUS should not just pick and choose which they want to enforce. That's not how things work. For example if I write a employee manual for our workers its not right for me to then just pick and choose what I want to enforce or allow. Edited February 24, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Depends on which laws take precedence. I'm all for states rights but there are certain things the Constitution leaves to the Fed govt. For example states that pass anti gay marriage laws. Pot is one that should be up to the states in my book but if current law says fed govt has jurisdiction then it needs to be challenged in the courts or the laws changed. POTUS should not just pick and choose which they want to enforce. That's not how things work. For example if I write a employee manual for our workers its not right for me to then just pick and choose what I want to enforce or allow. I agree but if something is legal in a state the fed should not be able to intrude on that. This is supposed to be a democratic republic, the will of the people should decide. I would agree that immigration should fall on the fed as that involves national security. States cant allow people to enter that can freely move to other states when they shouldnt be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Anler said: I agree but if something is legal in a state the fed should not be able to intrude on that. This is supposed to be a democratic republic, the will of the people should decide. I would agree that immigration should fall on the fed as that involves national security. States cant allow people to enter that can freely move to other states when they shouldnt be. Not arguing and I've never looked into the constitutionality of the federal drug laws. I would say if we are going to keep them or some of them illegal then the fact that drugs cross state lines so much as well as international borders into the US makes it hard keeping them (feds) out of the loop so to speak. I do believe from watching law enforcement shows that states with legal medical use laws cause havoc for law enforcement. State or Federal. What I do believe we have to hold true to court rulings even if you harshly disagree. I would not support Trump overiding the 9th circuit on the temp immigration ban even though I think its completely constitutional. Wiki In 1996, California voters passed Proposition 215, legalizing the growing and use of marijuana for medical purposes. This created significant legal and enforcement conflict between federal and state government laws. Courts have since decided that a state law in conflict with a federal law concerning cannabis is not valid. Cannabis is restricted by federal law (see Gonzales v. Raich). In 2010 California Proposition 19 (also known as the Regulate, Control & Tax Cannabis Act) was defeated with 53.5% 'No' votes, and 46.5% 'Yes' votes.[7] Edited February 24, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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