Snake Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Leaders in the Democratic Party probably should have thought twice before deciding to mount a scorched-earth campaign against President Trump. So far, they’ve failed to stop any of Trump’s picks, or gain public support for their cause. They have, however, succeeded in making themselves look unhinged. As we write this, not a single Trump Cabinet pick has withdrawn or failed to secure confirmation, which puts him well ahead of President Obama, who was forced to withdraw several of his initial appointments due to scandals. That included Tom Daschle, Obama’s pick for Health and Human Services, who’d failed to pay taxes, and his Commerce pick, Bill Richardson, who was being investigated for allegedly doling out government contracts in exchange for campaign contributions while governor of New Mexico. The best Democrats have been able to accomplish was to force Vice President Pence to cast the tiebreaking vote to confirm Education Secretary Betsy DeVos. They’ve also failed to convince a majority — or even a plurality — of the public to oppose any of Trump’s executive orders, according to a Morning Consult/Politico poll, which asked about 11 of his most controversial ones. In fact, the orders Democrats invested the most time and energy in attacking get the strongest public support. Fully 55% approve of Trump’s executive order putting a temporary hold on visas and refugees from terror-prone countries. Only 38% disapprove it. (The IBD/TIPP poll found that 51% support Trump’s order on refugees.) The same share approves of Trump’s order to revoke funding for sanctuary cities. A majority (54%) also back Trump’s call to freeze all federal regulations. This is a stunning failure on the part of Democrats to sway public opinion, despite having the full support of sign-wielding activists, several corporate executives, most celebrities and the entire mainstream press. As for the press, their unrelenting campaign against Trump — and their determination to label just about everything he says as a lie — has backfired as well. An Emerson College poll found that the public views the Trump administration as more truthful than the news media, with 48% saying Trump is truthful, compared with only 39% who say the media are being truthful. http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/democrats-are-losing-their-war-with-trump/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Oh, it's more than the "war" they are losing. They are losing their constituents in the process. Well, the more intelligent ones anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Meanwhile he continues to break laws.......collect........here's rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Meanwhile he continues to break laws.......collect........here's rope You should alert the proper authorities! Tell them who you are and that you post frequently on a snowmobile site opposing any and all of Trump's actions. They'll mobilize forces immediately!!!! Ahhhh....dare to dream right MC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Really? Looks like Republicans are starting to lose support in the reddest of red states, and it only took 3 weeks! https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/10/politics/republican-town-halls-obamacare/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, ICEMAN! said: Really? Looks like Republicans are starting to lose support in the reddest of red states, and it only took 3 weeks! https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/10/politics/republican-town-halls-obamacare/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I know, I know. Fake news. Paid protesters funded by Soros...what's the excuse du jour that thousands of people are showing up in safe Republican seat town halls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ICEMAN! said: I know, I know. Fake news. Paid protesters funded by Soros...what's the excuse du jour that thousands of people are showing up in safe Republican seat town halls? He ran AND WON on a platform to replace Obamacare because it is a FINANCIAL DISASTER. So, he is losing support by the people who voted him in now? Think...think harder...get training. To make it easier, I've highlighted the correct portion of your post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: He ran AND WON on a platform to replace Obamacare because it is a FINANCIAL DISASTER. So, he is losing support by the people who voted him in now? Think...think harder...get training. To make it easier, I've highlighted the correct portion of your post above. Half of Republican voters didn't realize that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were the same thing. They didn't know wtf they were voting for they're so fucking dumb. Why are these Repubs in safe Rep areas cutting their town halls short and fleeing under police escort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 11, 2017 If the Democrats were serious about the ACA keeping costs down the tax imposed by it on Companies and individuals that did not choose to purchase insurance should have been greater than the cost of the insurance itself. Of course they knew they couldn't get it passed that way so they didn't have the tax that high. The vast majority of people on the ACA had insurance dropped by employers who no longer could afford the higher costs associated with the new ACA requirements or now qualified for Medicaid. New enrollment of people who actually never had insurance and went thru the exchanges was very low. You have to love dems. Lets pass a really shitty law so we can prove to people why the govt needs to take over shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ICEMAN! said: Half of Republican voters didn't realize that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were the same thing. They didn't know wtf they were voting for they're so fucking dumb. Why are these Repubs in safe Rep areas cutting their town halls short and fleeing under police escort? Half? Like the Dem half? Yeah...I get that. The same half that thinks it is going "swimmingly". Idiots. No idea why they are "cutting it short and fleeing". I haven't seen that. Is it because of the tolerant liberals believing their free speech is more relevant and protected. I'd like to see that shit happening for sure. My guess is, unless it is staged, those "town hallers" aren't scared of those faggots outside at all. GOOD GRIEF! When are we gonna do this? I mean come on! All this social media tough talk from the liberals and nothing more than broken windows and burning trash cans. GROW A PAIR!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Half? Like the Dem half? Yeah...I get that. The same half that thinks it is going "swimmingly". Idiots. No idea why they are "cutting it short and fleeing". I haven't seen that. Is it because of the tolerant liberals believing their free speech is more relevant and protected. I'd like to see that shit happening for sure. My guess is, unless it is staged, those "town hallers" aren't scared of those faggots outside at all. GOOD GRIEF! When are we gonna do this? I mean come on! All this social media tough talk from the liberals and nothing more than broken windows and burning trash cans. GROW A PAIR!!! Pick a news source. It's happening all over the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Half of Republican voters didn't realize that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were the same thing. They didn't know wtf they were voting for they're so fucking dumb. Why are these Repubs in safe Rep areas cutting their town halls short and fleeing under police escort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Pick a news source. It's happening all over the country. Been keeping up most of the week. Haven't seen that. Must be on "your channels"? I'm surprised they can fit it in....all I've seen there is their SNL coverage. Riveting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Been keeping up most of the week. Haven't seen that. Must be on "your channels"? I'm surprised they can fit it in....all I've seen there is their SNL coverage. Riveting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Half of Republican voters didn't realize that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were the same thing. They didn't know wtf they were voting for they're so fucking dumb. Why are these Repubs in safe Rep areas cutting their town halls short and fleeing under police escort? Recent picture of Iceman below. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/upshot/one-third-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same.html?_r=0 A sizable minority of Americans don’t understand that Obamacare is just another name for the Affordable Care Act. This finding, from a poll by Morning Consult, illustrates the extent of public confusion over a health law that President Trump and Republicans in Congress hope to repeal. In the survey, 35 percent of respondents said either they thought Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were different policies (17 percent) or didn’t know if they were the same or different (18 percent). This confusion was more pronounced among people 18 to 29 and those who earn less than $50,000 — two groups that could be significantly affected by repeal. Among Republicans, a higher percentage (72 percent) said they knew Obamacare and the A.C.A. were the same, which may reflect the party’s longstanding hostility to the law. Edited February 11, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ICEMAN! said: Yes...your side is clearly "WINNING". Troody is next bitch! Out you go young tard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/upshot/one-third-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same.html?_r=0 A sizable minority of Americans don’t understand that Obamacare is just another name for the Affordable Care Act. This finding, from a poll by Morning Consult, illustrates the extent of public confusion over a health law that President Trump and Republicans in Congress hope to repeal. In the survey, 35 percent of respondents said either they thought Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were different policies (17 percent) or didn’t know if they were the same or different (18 percent). This confusion was more pronounced among people 18 to 29 and those who earn less than $50,000 — two groups that could be significantly affected by repeal. Among Republicans, a higher percentage (72 percent) said they knew Obamacare and the A.C.A. were the same, which may reflect the party’s longstanding hostility to the law. I hate facts! Wait.....I'm not a liberal! I love facts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Really? Looks like Republicans are starting to lose support in the reddest of red states, and it only took 3 weeks! https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/10/politics/republican-town-halls-obamacare/index.html Screaming constituents yelling DOYOUR JOB to the republican representing them. Yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, Mainecat said: Screaming constituents yelling DOYOUR JOB to the republican representing them. Yeah Constituents does not always mean people who voted for them. Chances are you are not going to meet the demands of those that don't support you. Elections have consequences. Remember that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: Recent picture of Iceman below. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/upshot/one-third-dont-know-obamacare-and-affordable-care-act-are-the-same.html?_r=0 A sizable minority of Americans don’t understand that Obamacare is just another name for the Affordable Care Act. This finding, from a poll by Morning Consult, illustrates the extent of public confusion over a health law that President Trump and Republicans in Congress hope to repeal. In the survey, 35 percent of respondents said either they thought Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were different policies (17 percent) or didn’t know if they were the same or different (18 percent). This confusion was more pronounced among people 18 to 29 and those who earn less than $50,000 — two groups that could be significantly affected by repeal. Among Republicans, a higher percentage (72 percent) said they knew Obamacare and the A.C.A. were the same, which may reflect the party’s longstanding hostility to the law. It's funny because they gave this article a good ignoring last time it was posted but yet here is Icetwat regurgitating the same bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Constituents does not always mean people who voted for them. Chances are you are not going to meet the demands of those that don't support you. Elections have consequences. Remember that? He's hopeless. He reminds me of an old guy (well...50's at the time) I worked with when I was 16 or 17 stocking groceries. Always complaining about Reagan...ALWAYS! Oh, and making sure he took his breaks and all the benefits of the union. That was before I knew too much about the world but it didn't take me long to figure out how I was in the same employment position as a 16/17 year old as he was as a older grown man. Life lesson: Don't be THAT guy. MC never learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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