ICEMAN! Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Marathon Pharmaceuticals to Charge $89,000 for Muscular Dystrophy Drug After More-Than-50-Fold Increase https://www.wsj.com/articles/marathon-pharmaceuticals-to-charge-89-000-for-muscular-dystrophy-drug-1486738267?mod=e2tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 And how much did it cost to develop the drug? 10's of $M's, 100's of $M's perhaps a $B. It doesn't tell you that part. They need to recover the research, development and certification costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, 02sled said: And how much did it cost to develop the drug? 10's of $M's, 100's of $M's perhaps a $B. It doesn't tell you that part. They need to recover the research, development and certification costs. It's been available since the 1970's stupid Once again, afraid to read anything and educate yourself. Just knee jerk ideological BS spewing from you 24/7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: It's been available since the 1970's stupid Once again, afraid to read anything and educate yourself. Just knee jerk ideological BS spewing from you 24/7 Dumbass read. I know it's beyond your comprehension level. You really are stupid. Also pay attention to the other word RARE. So they were able to test it and use people in other countries without regulations for drug certification previous to the US. You think that FDA certification comes for free. Extensive testing, studies and reports. Now the other part. RARE disease so the demand will be LOW. Think logically. I know that's a stretch for you, low demand, fewer doses, higher cost per dose. It just got approved. Not years ago, just now. Think for a minute and realize that the formulation and research has continued for years after they perhaps found serious side effects when they were using people in say India as test subjects. That all comes for free right. You truly are a dumbass. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday approved the drug, called deflazacort, to treat a rare type of muscular dystrophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, 02sled said: Dumbass read. I know it's beyond your comprehension level. You really are stupid. Also pay attention to the other word RARE. So they were able to test it and use people in other countries without regulations for drug certification previous to the US. You think that FDA certification comes for free. Extensive testing, studies and reports. Now the other part. RARE disease so the demand will be LOW. Think logically. I know that's a stretch for you, low demand, fewer doses, higher cost per dose. It just got approved. Not years ago, just now. Think for a minute and realize that the formulation and research has continued for years after they perhaps found serious side effects when they were using people in say India as test subjects. That all comes for free right. You truly are a dumbass. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday approved the drug, called deflazacort, to treat a rare type of muscular dystrophy. Strange how they can sell it for $1600 in Europe though eh? Congrats on reading the article. I'll give you an "A" for that and a gold star for effort. Unfortunately you get a "C" for comprehension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 How much of the research into corticosteroids was federally funded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, 02sled said: And how much did it cost to develop the drug? 10's of $M's, 100's of $M's perhaps a $B. It doesn't tell you that part. They need to recover the research, development and certification costs. They recovered the research costs decades ago. This is nothing more than corporate greed to the max. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said: Strange how they can sell it for $1600 in Europe though eh? Congrats on reading the article. I'll give you an "A" for that and a gold star for effort. Unfortunately you get a "C" for comprehension. Your comprehension level is a big F. They use places like India for clinical trials and refinement. Do you think that the people in India where extreme poverty runs rampant have a hope in hell of paying for the drug. Those places with little or no drug certification provide the opportunity to gather all the information and test results for presentation to the FDA. Think about why it was just approved for use in the US on Thursday. Perhaps that's how long it took to refine the drug to the point of FDA approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 59 minutes ago, 02sled said: Your comprehension level is a big F. They use places like India for clinical trials and refinement. Do you think that the people in India where extreme poverty runs rampant have a hope in hell of paying for the drug. Those places with little or no drug certification provide the opportunity to gather all the information and test results for presentation to the FDA. Think about why it was just approved for use in the US on Thursday. Perhaps that's how long it took to refine the drug to the point of FDA approval. Again, read the article. People in the US have been importing it from Europe for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Again, read the article. People in the US have been importing it from Europe for decades. May have been importing but what part of FDA approval don't you get. Not an approved prescription drug without it. People bring all kinds of things into the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, 02sled said: And how much did it cost to develop the drug? 10's of $M's, 100's of $M's perhaps a $B. It doesn't tell you that part. They need to recover the research, development and certification costs. why do you defend an industry that intentionally produced addictive drugs for profit with no regard for pain and suffering? drug companies are capturing 35% margins. and you are a putz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, 02sled said: May have been importing but what part of FDA approval don't you get. Not an approved prescription drug without it. People bring all kinds of things into the country FDA approval is not expensive enough to warrant the cost increase. Especially when they have a baseline from other Countries to compare There is no excuse but corporate greed. I'm all for profit for a company but this should be regulated somehow Or just make it legal for people or insurance companies to buy it outside the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, spin_dry said: why do you defend an industry that intentionally produced addictive drugs for profit with no regard for pain and suffering? drug companies are capturing 35% margins. and you are a putz. After they changed OxyCodone so people couldn't crush it to snort it sales dropped 80%. Proving 80% was for stoners. After sales dropped they changed it back because sales dropped so bad. Government should have been able to step in and make them change it back again. The biggest drain on society right now is prescription drug abuse. Drug companies are the largest cartel in the world and they are legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 This is fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Ebsell said: After they changed OxyCodone so people couldn't crush it to snort it sales dropped 80%. Proving 80% was for stoners. After sales dropped they changed it back because sales dropped so bad. Government should have been able to step in and make them change it back again. The biggest drain on society right now is prescription drug abuse. Drug companies are the largest cartel in the world and they are legal. And OxyContin is the gateway drug to heroin. Tons of people are getting hooked on Oxy and switching to heroin since it's cheaper. It's a major problem. HBO did a series about kids on Cape Cod getting hooked on heroin, good kids for the most part and half of them die during the documentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Fentanyl is the current big mover here. Most are to poor for heroin or cocaine so we have tons of meth, morphine, hydromorph and fentanyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Funny how the war on drugs was fought for the most part because of weed and coke. But neither of those drugs has had anywhere near the negative effects on society that prescription drugs has. Big buisness rules the law and when a law don't suit them they lobby government to change it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: It's been available since the 1970's stupid Once again, afraid to read anything and educate yourself. Just knee jerk ideological BS spewing from you 24/7 Why must you bring up facts???? 5 hours ago, 02sled said: Dumbass read. I know it's beyond your comprehension level. You really are stupid. Also pay attention to the other word RARE. So they were able to test it and use people in other countries without regulations for drug certification previous to the US. You think that FDA certification comes for free. Extensive testing, studies and reports. Now the other part. RARE disease so the demand will be LOW. Think logically. I know that's a stretch for you, low demand, fewer doses, higher cost per dose. It just got approved. Not years ago, just now. Think for a minute and realize that the formulation and research has continued for years after they perhaps found serious side effects when they were using people in say India as test subjects. That all comes for free right. You truly are a dumbass. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday approved the drug, called deflazacort, to treat a rare type of muscular dystrophy. Really? 5 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: Strange how they can sell it for $1600 in Europe though eh? Congrats on reading the article. I'll give you an "A" for that and a gold star for effort. Unfortunately you get a "C" for comprehension. Again you with the facts!!! 02sled is now going to have an inferiority complex now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Ebsell said: After they changed OxyCodone so people couldn't crush it to snort it sales dropped 80%. Proving 80% was for stoners. After sales dropped they changed it back because sales dropped so bad. Government should have been able to step in and make them change it back again. The biggest drain on society right now is prescription drug abuse. Drug companies are the largest cartel in the world and they are legal. following the hardcoating of oxy's is when heroin use exploded. they retained the hardcoat on larger milligram pills. 30mg percs can still be cooked up and injected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 If you watched today's news, a guy from the drug company who makes the drug said the cost will come way down with insurance. It cost more than 70% more in the US than Europe, somethings wrong here, I understand costs to develop and license the drugs but what good can it be to charge more money than 99.9% of the people can afford to buy it? The Drug guy had this crazy smirk on his face, you know, the kind which you'd just like to punch him in the mouth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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