Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mainecat said: The Dems are attacking unions now? Where do you live...in a cave? Neanderthals were smarter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, Mainecat said: The Dems are attacking unions now? Where do you live...in a cave? Have you talked to any coal miners lately? How about snowbeavis, you talk to any coal miners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, racer254 said: Have you talked to any coal miners lately? How about snowbeavis, you talk to any coal miners? Yes - and they are eager to be cross trained into green energy jobs that pay nearly twice as much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Have you talked to any coal miners lately? How about snowbeavis, you talk to any coal miners? Coal is a dead industry. They can get unemployment thanks to the Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Yes - and they are eager to be cross trained into green energy jobs that pay nearly twice as much. Sure you have, why would you lie? “We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” — Hillary Clinton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Sure you have, why would you lie? “We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” — Hillary Clinton Bury your head in the sand you stupid fuck:. Coal Mining Employment in Appalachia Williamson, which calls itself the “Heart of the Billion Dollar Coalfield,” is in Appalachian coal country. Coal mining employment in the region peaked at 130,00 in the 1940’s, and it has dropped steadily down to less than 22,000. The reason for the decline is partly due to the industry’s shift to an especially destructive, highly mechanized mining method called mountaintop coal removal. In terms of total population, the number of households in Appalachia earning income directly from mining is down to a small fraction, which leaves a giant opening for a new constituency in green jobs. Workers in the green employment sector will have their own priorities, which will probably not include support for companies that chew up the local environment and undermine public health in order to export American coal overseas. A New Push for Green Jobs for Appalachia The Williamson solar project represents more than just one private building owner installing a few kilowatts of solar energy. It was a centerpiece for Williamson’s four-day “Solar Week” of workshops and on-the-job training, hosted by a West Virginia renewable energy installer, Mountain View Solar and Wind and a nonprofit sustainable employment organization called The Jobs Project. In a press release, Mountain View co-president Mike McKechnie noted that local residents formerly employed as electricians in the mining industry were ideal candidates for solar energy employment (and the panels, by the way, were made in the U.S. by a unit of the global firm SolarWorld. http://cleantechnica.com/2011/02/05/new-green-jobs-come-to-west-virginias-billion-dollar-coalfield/ Edited June 16, 2016 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Yes - and they are eager to be cross trained into green energy jobs that pay nearly twice as much. At Solyndra? Edited June 16, 2016 by Sleepr2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 16, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Dem's never passed any gun legislation nor hardly tried Obama's first 2 years in, often for a variety of reasons. 1. Would have made election results of 2010 even worse. Lots of dem's need to stay pro gun to get elected. 2. Dem's don't really want anything big passed. Its a issue to point the finger of blame. 3. The terror watch list bill is a joke without strong bipartisan oversight. Who decides who is and is not on it. Head of Homeland Security, Head of the FBI, The POTUS? We all know with how the dems ran the IRS that it can lead to political witch hunts. Whats next if your on the terror watch list your on the well known KILL LIST Obama has? I'm not against a terror watch list nor and I 100% against not allowing those to obtain guns but that is a slippery slope for both sides with the hate both sides have for one another. I think its nuts ANYONE who is not a US citizen can buy ANY type of firearm. If we need a constitutional amendment to fix that then get it done. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/federal-firearms-licensees/ffl-tip-sheet-for-non-u.s.-citizens-purchasing-firearms-1 Edited June 16, 2016 by Highmark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Momorider Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: The same can be said about guns. Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 16, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 On 6/14/2016 at 6:07 PM, SnowRider said: Explained and full of good info. https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=ezra+klein+understanding+gun+violence+in+america&vid=9c1ff860e2408f58a6c7d49c082750b9&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.V0465fed0a571ea017490707a23420a94%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D168%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbX4qUsgHa4Y&tit=The+state+of+gun+violence+in+the+US%2C+explained+in+18+charts&c=0&h=168&w=300&l=430&sigr=11b8asqmc&sigt=11rfevve5&sigi=132eis2a5&ct=p&age=1456075143&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yfp-hrtab-901&tt=b Yes lets understand gun violence in America. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/428922/racial-disparities-gun-violence-and-gun-control Thanks to the Washington Post, I discovered this rather astounding chart showing the different rates of gun deaths for blacks and whites. For whites, “77 percent of gun deaths are suicides.” For black Americans, 82 percent die from homicide:The next interesting statistic is that this high homicide rate comes from a population with a much lower rate of gun ownership. Roughly “41 percent of white households own guns, compared with to just 19 percent of black households.” In other words, when it comes to guns — white and black Americans live different lives. White Americans don’t experience much criminal gun violence but have much greater experience with guns. Widespread gun ownership doesn’t lead to criminal carnage, so fear-based gun control arguments simply don’t ring true. The experience of black communities, by contrast, shows that unless there are effective legal, political, and cultural efforts to thwart the criminal class, even much lower rates of gun ownership won’t stop widespread violence. It doesn’t take many armed and angry people to exact a terrible toll. Black America has a rate of gun ownership that gun controllers would long to achieve for the rest of the country, yet it still suffers from a horrifying level of homicide. Suicides represent not just the vast majority of white gun deaths, but the vast majority of gun deaths overall. It’s unclear, however, whether high rates of gun ownership are necessarily material to the suicide rate. After all, as my colleague Mark Wright pointed out, Japan and South Korea have extremely high suicide rates despite far lower rates of gun ownership. Suicide is a cultural problem. It is not a gun problem. Gun controllers roll their eyes whenever they hear the old saying, “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.” But it’s true. Communities with low rates of gun ownership can still suffer high rates of homicide. Communities with low rates of gun ownership can suffer from high rates of suicide. Black America has a homicide problem. White America has a suicide problem. In both instances, people are responsible for their own actions. Guns don’t make them kill.Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/428922/racial-disparities-gun-violence-and-gun-control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Very good post Highmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 31 minutes ago, Highmark said: Thanks to the Washington Post, I discovered this rather astounding chart showing the different rates of gun deaths for blacks and whites. For whites, “77 percent of gun deaths are suicides.” For black Americans, 82 percent die from homicide: The question is why is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 . Spin it and justify it all you want. The fact is the sheer number of guns is responsible for the lethalness of American crime. Other countries have similar crime rates but it's not nearly as lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: . Spin it and justify it all you want. The fact is the sheer number of guns is responsible for the lethalness of American crime. Other countries have similar crime rates but it's not nearly as lethal. Not trying to justify anything..just to try and understand things ,something you libs claim to be good at..bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 On June 14, 2016 at 7:07 PM, SnowRider said: Explained and full of good info. https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=ezra+klein+understanding+gun+violence+in+america&vid=9c1ff860e2408f58a6c7d49c082750b9&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.V0465fed0a571ea017490707a23420a94%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D168%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbX4qUsgHa4Y&tit=The+state+of+gun+violence+in+the+US%2C+explained+in+18+charts&c=0&h=168&w=300&l=430&sigr=11b8asqmc&sigt=11rfevve5&sigi=132eis2a5&ct=p&age=1456075143&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yfp-hrtab-901&tt=b Great video. Too many facts for most on here I am sure. Good find. I didn't have time to read all the replies but would I bet correct in assuming it was page after page of name calling and deflection? Did anyone dispute one for one the facts in this video? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: Great video. Too many facts for most on here I am sure. Good find. I didn't have time to read all the replies but would I bet correct in assuming it was page after page of name calling and deflection? Did anyone dispute one for one the facts in this video? Not really. Typical rationalization and justification.....while the common denominator is ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Not really. Typical rationalization and justification.....while the common denominator is ignored. Ok..you're prez! What you gonna do? Edited June 16, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 Just now, Capt.Storm said: Ok..your prez! What you gonna do? Simple. Look at other countries with less lethal violence and follow suite. Registration Insurance Training Mental Health Evaluations Waiting Periods lLicense Etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: Simple. Look at other countries with less lethal violence and follow suite. Registration- we have that..in Ny anyways. Insurance- not sure what you mean there. Training- to hit targets better? Mental Health Evaluations-n I can concur on this one. Waiting Periods- We have that for pistols in Ny..I could go along with long guns also. lLicense - same has above. Etc... see we do have some common grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted June 16, 2016 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: see we do have some common grounds. So you stand with the Congressional D's and against the R's/NRA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Just now, SnowRider said: So you stand with the Congressional D's and against the R's/NRA? I stand for what I believe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 16, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Simple. Look at other countries with less lethal violence and follow suite. Registration Insurance Training Mental Health Evaluations Waiting Periods lLicense Etc... Other countries have less problems with Gangs. Control the gangs in the US and you control the violence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Just now, Highmark said: Other countries have less problems with Gangs. Control the gangs in the US and you control the violence. Yes, and other countries have less problems with Illegal immigrants as well. Lets control this shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Other countries have less problems with Gangs. Control the gangs in the US and you control the violence. So its the Niggers then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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