frenchy Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, racer254 said: Let's see if we can get to a common ground. What makes them unemployable? substance abuse, mental health issues, debilitating physical issues, abject stupidity, etc. Pretty simple really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: To some degree I beg to differ. If life on the govt isn't great it can force people to straighten the fuck up. We have talked all the time about parents being too good to their kids as it creates a person unwilling to help themselves. There is no reason we should not with some people think of govt in the same way. Like I said in another post while I think it can be done better thru private charity I accept govt needs some role in welfare however the libs absolutely refuse to acknowledge that at some point some people need to be cut off or at bare minimum make them work to receive help. The earned income child credit is a good example of that. All good points that I agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, frenchy said: speaks to the 'unemployability' aspect I mentioned. Sure but see my post above. Doesn't mean those we think of as unemployable yet still capable should be taken care of for the rest of their lives. Also unemployable to you are me doesn't mean to everyone else. Edited June 27, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Let's see if we can get to a common ground. What makes them unemployable? The same thing that makes you unemployable. Extremely low intellect 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, f7ben said: The same thing that makes you unemployable. Extremely low intellect Low intellect doesn't make anyone unemployable. I shouldn't have to tell that to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, racer254 said: Low intellect doesn't make anyone unemployable. I shouldn't have to tell that to you. It does below about an 80 IQ or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: It does below about an 80 IQ or so Not so sure I put an exact number on it. If you can follow simple orders, work hard and handle authority you can earn a good living. Plenty of mentally handicapped people hold down jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, f7ben said: It does below about an 80 IQ or so Not saying your incorrect, but many mammals can do basic commands for work. For the sake of argument, if those same people went to college, do you think we should pay off their student loans? Edited June 27, 2019 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not so sure I put an exact number on it. If you can follow simple orders, work hard and handle authority you can earn a good living. Plenty of mentally handicapped people hold down jobs. Why don’t you just come right out and say what you really mean which is kick everybody off social welfare programs regardless and if they survive great...if not fuck ‘em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Not saying your incorrect, but many mammals can do basic commands for work. For the sake of argument, if those same people went to college, do you think we should pay off their student loans? You talk about finding common ground and then say this stupid shit. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Why don’t you just come right out and say what you really mean which is kick everybody off social welfare programs regardless and if they survive great...if not fuck ‘em. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Derp derp derp......if a dog can learn to roll over people can find jobs and don't need help derp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Why don’t you just come right out and say what you really mean which is kick everybody off social welfare programs regardless and if they survive great...if not fuck ‘em. SMH. Why is it people like you have to assume the extreme. Fuck is wrong with you? Virtually every topic is like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: SMH. Why is it people like you have to assume the extreme. Fuck is wrong with you? Virtually every topic is like that. Why is people like you just can’t be honest instead of tiptoeing around subjects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: SMH. Why is it people like you have to assume the extreme. Fuck is wrong with you? Virtually every topic is like that. This. Because they have no logical solution to the problem. NO ONE is saying kick everyone off social welfare, but in no way, shape, or form should multiple generations be on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: Derp derp derp......if a dog can learn to roll over people can find jobs and don't need help derp if those same people went to college, do you think we should pay off their student loans? Noticed you failed to answer that question. Edited June 27, 2019 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, racer254 said: if those same people went to college, do you think we should pay off their student loans? I dont give two sweet fucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, racer254 said: This. Because they have no logical solution to the problem. NO ONE is saying kick everyone off social welfare, but in no way, shape, or form should multiple generations be on it. And your solution is to talk about mammals being trainable....idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: And your solution is to talk about mammals being trainable....idiot. LOL what solution have you come up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Why is people like you just can’t be honest instead of tiptoeing around subjects? Yes because the amazing Jimmy knows how I feel. Dude get over yourself already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not so sure I put an exact number on it. If you can follow simple orders, work hard and handle authority you can earn a good living. Plenty of mentally handicapped people hold down jobs. yes plenty do but there are plenty who really can't as well. the ones who can work tend to be very good at basic repetitive tasks those that can't may have issues that make it tough for them or for the employer to actually employ them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yes because the amazing Jimmy knows how I feel. Dude get over yourself already. Not amazing and your words are your words....we all have opinions on this...it is what it is. Edited June 27, 2019 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Not amazing and your words are your words....we all have opinions on this...it is what it is. "regardless if they survive" Heartstrings. Do you think they will survive only if we all pay off the student loans. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Not amazing and your words are your words....we all have opinions on this...it is what it is. And my words do not at all match your opinion. Nice try though. Edited June 27, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: And my words do not at all match your opinion. Nice try though. Fine and If my opinion is wrong than I apologize but I do think we are on opposite ends of the spectrum on this one....either way there is still a labor shortage no matter the reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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