Anler Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Nearly two years into the Mueller investigation of a "Russiagate" conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, we have yet to see one actual crime related to the purpose of the investigation. Now the investigation is slowly shutting down and still no "Russiagate" crimes. Every "smoking gun" seems to just shoot hot air. What next...? Mueller’s Investigation is Missing One Thing: A Crime written by peter van buren monday december 10, 2018 A baby born when Robert Mueller started his investigation would be talking by now. But would she have anything to say? We last looked at what Mueller had publicly—and what he didn’t have—some 10 months ago, and I remained skeptical that the Trump campaign had in any way colluded with Russia. It’s worth another look now, but first let’s give away the ending (spoiler alert!): there is still no real evidence of, well, much of anything significant about Russiagate. One thing that is clear is that the investigation seems to be ending. Mueller’s office has reportedly even told various defense lawyers that it is “tying up loose ends.” The moment to wrap things up is politically right as well: the Democrats will soon take control of the House; time to hand this all off to them. Ten months ago the big news was Paul Manafort flipped; that seems to have turned out to be mostly a bust, as we know now he lied like a rug to the Feds and cooperated with the Trump defense team as some sort of mole inside Mueller’s investigation (a heavily-redacted memo about Manafort’s lies, released by Mueller on Friday, adds no significant new details to the Russiagate narrative.) George Papadopoulos has already been in and out of jail—all of two weeks— for his sideshow role. Michael Avenatti is now a woman beater who is just figuring out he’s washed up. Stormy Daniels owes Trump over $300,000 in fees after losing to him in court. There still is no pee tape. And if you don’t recall how unimportant Carter Page and Richard Gates turned out to be (or even who they are), well, there is your assessment of all the hysterical commentary that accompanied them a few headlines ago. The big reveal of the Michael Flynn sentencing memo on Tuesday was that he will likely do no prison time. Everything of substance in the memo was redacted, so there is little insight available. If you insist on speculation, try this: it’s hard to believe that something really big and bad happened such that Flynn knew about it but still wasn’t worth punishing for it, and now, a year after he started cooperating with the government, still nobody has heard anything about whatever the big deal is. So chances are the redactions focus on foreign lobbying in the U.S. This week’s Key to Everything is Michael Cohen, the guy who lied out of self-interest for Trump until last week when we learned he is also willing to lie, er, testify against Trump out of self-interest. If you take his most recent statements at face value, the sum is the failed negotiations to build a Trump hotel in Moscow, which went on a few months longer than was originally stated, and that we all knew about already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The only crimes Mueller has found are perjury traps.......lying .....thats it. Its pathetic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I dunno why you clowns laugh at racer so much, you’re a lot like him in many ways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yep. Just like all the people paying attention have been saying from the beginning. Russiagate and collusion are non starters. Campaign finance violations and money laundering could be a whole different story though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Snoslinger said: I dunno why you clowns laugh at racer so much, you’re a lot like him in many ways dispute the OP with facts.......not investigator slinger facts either. Not fake collusion with a DNC lawyer from Russia.......actual facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Yep. Just like all the people paying attention have been saying from the beginning. Russiagate and collusion are non starters. Campaign finance violations and money laundering could be a whole different story though. Money laundering with Russia is one of the reasons for the collusion, dingaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: dispute the OP with facts.......not investigator slinger facts either. Not fake collusion with a DNC lawyer from Russia.......actual facts Go light your dick on fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: Money laundering with Russia is one of the reasons for the collusion, dingaling Did that happen? Show us the proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Did that happen? Show us the proof. you will get NOTHING......AND LIKE IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Did that happen? Show us the proof. Show me your proof of money laundering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Snoslinger said: Show me your proof of money laundering I don't have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: I don't have any. Well surely there must be something there that would make you believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So you can “see” some money laundering with the Russians, but you can’t see any collusion, or reasons for the collusion with Russia? Is that what you’re saying tom? Makes a lot of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: So you can “see” some money laundering with the Russians, but you can’t see any collusion, or reasons for the collusion with Russia? Is that what you’re saying tom? Makes a lot of sense proof dickbag........wheres the proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: Well surely there must be something there that would make you believe it The same thing I told you 18 months ago when we discussed this. Trump has had thousands of business dealings with hundreds of different people in dozens of countries. To think that every single one of those was perfectly clean is a little naive. I have no knowledge of any financial improprieties but there may be one or more. I wouldn't rule it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: So you can “see” some money laundering with the Russians, but you can’t see any collusion, or reasons for the collusion with Russia? Is that what you’re saying tom? Makes a lot of sense I never once said money laundering with Russians. That is you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, AKIQPilot said: I never once said money laundering with Russians. That is you. So who do you suspect it is with? Quit playing dumb dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: Money laundering with Russia is one of the reasons for the collusion, dingaling So it's not about the election anymore it's just about how much damage can we do? That's what I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 All the evidence of the trumps getting Russian money, the condo sales to Russians, flaky property deals with Russians etc etc etc and Tom isn’t suspecting Russian money laundering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: So who do you suspect it is with? Quit playing dumb dude Saudi Arabia for one. Likely Possibly others. Edited December 11, 2018 by AKIQPilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Anler said: Nearly two years into the Mueller investigation of a "Russiagate" conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, we have yet to see one actual crime related to the purpose of the investigation. Now the investigation is slowly shutting down and still no "Russiagate" crimes. Every "smoking gun" seems to just shoot hot air. What next...? Mueller’s Investigation is Missing One Thing: A Crime written by peter van buren monday december 10, 2018 A baby born when Robert Mueller started his investigation would be talking by now. But would she have anything to say? We last looked at what Mueller had publicly—and what he didn’t have—some 10 months ago, and I remained skeptical that the Trump campaign had in any way colluded with Russia. It’s worth another look now, but first let’s give away the ending (spoiler alert!): there is still no real evidence of, well, much of anything significant about Russiagate. One thing that is clear is that the investigation seems to be ending. Mueller’s office has reportedly even told various defense lawyers that it is “tying up loose ends.” The moment to wrap things up is politically right as well: the Democrats will soon take control of the House; time to hand this all off to them. Ten months ago the big news was Paul Manafort flipped; that seems to have turned out to be mostly a bust, as we know now he lied like a rug to the Feds and cooperated with the Trump defense team as some sort of mole inside Mueller’s investigation (a heavily-redacted memo about Manafort’s lies, released by Mueller on Friday, adds no significant new details to the Russiagate narrative.) George Papadopoulos has already been in and out of jail—all of two weeks— for his sideshow role. Michael Avenatti is now a woman beater who is just figuring out he’s washed up. Stormy Daniels owes Trump over $300,000 in fees after losing to him in court. There still is no pee tape. And if you don’t recall how unimportant Carter Page and Richard Gates turned out to be (or even who they are), well, there is your assessment of all the hysterical commentary that accompanied them a few headlines ago. The big reveal of the Michael Flynn sentencing memo on Tuesday was that he will likely do no prison time. Everything of substance in the memo was redacted, so there is little insight available. If you insist on speculation, try this: it’s hard to believe that something really big and bad happened such that Flynn knew about it but still wasn’t worth punishing for it, and now, a year after he started cooperating with the government, still nobody has heard anything about whatever the big deal is. So chances are the redactions focus on foreign lobbying in the U.S. This week’s Key to Everything is Michael Cohen, the guy who lied out of self-interest for Trump until last week when we learned he is also willing to lie, er, testify against Trump out of self-interest. If you take his most recent statements at face value, the sum is the failed negotiations to build a Trump hotel in Moscow, which went on a few months longer than was originally stated, and that we all knew about already. Did you mean to say " PATIENCE " ??? You are dumb Private Pyle, aren't you???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Anler said: So it's not about the election anymore it's just about how much damage can we do? That's what I thought. It’s to find out the real reasons behind the collusion you dumb ass. You don’t think we should know about all that? Like I said, you are almost as dumb as racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: All the evidence of the trumps getting Russian money, the condo sales to Russians, flaky property deals with Russians etc etc etc and Tom isn’t suspecting Russian money laundering You have evidence of that or just hearsay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, Polaris 550 said: Did you mean to say " PATIENCE " ??? You are dumb Private Pyle, aren't you???? Grow up HOMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Also, all of these "witnesses" who were indicted and convicted for lying should now be believed when their ass is on the line? Setting a pretty dangerous precedent here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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