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The biggest thing that will help us is cutting the govt spending and decreasing the size of govt. The problem is every single cadidate we have will not do it. From the pres to the legislators. Bush with his wars. Trump with his wall, tax cuts and increasing the military budget. And Obama and the dems with their health care for everybody, free college, and entitlement spending. It will never happen. :flush: 

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5 minutes ago, Edmo said:

The biggest thing that will help us is cutting the govt spending and decreasing the size of govt. The problem is every single cadidate we have will not do it. From the pres to the legislators. Bush with his wars. Trump with his wall, tax cuts and increasing the military budget. And Obama and the dems with their health care for everybody, free college, and entitlement spending. It will never happen. :flush: 

The Wall is nothing compared to that other shit you mentioned plus Mexico is going to pay for the wall so its just a lone ;) 

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6 minutes ago, Momorider said:

The Wall is nothing compared to that other shit you mentioned plus Mexico is going to pay for the wall so its just a lone ;) 

Sure, but you get the point. They aren’t going to win any election preaching austerity. You know that.

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1 hour ago, steve from amherst said:

If he is not reelected , nope. If he is , definatly.

no doubt if he is re-elected there will be a recession thats natural economic cycle.  it will be a miracle if it doesn't happen prior to the end of his first term given the fact we are in the second longest bull market in history. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

no doubt if he is re-elected there will be a recession thats natural economic cycle.  it will be a miracle if it doesn't happen prior to the end of his first term given the fact we are in the second longest bull market in history. 

 

 

And how many will blame Trump for it with zero economic background at all? 

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8 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

no doubt if he is re-elected there will be a recession thats natural economic cycle.  it will be a miracle if it doesn't happen prior to the end of his first term given the fact we are in the second longest bull market in history. 

 

 

This really doesn't play much though due to the massive debacle at the end of Bush's term.  The whole cycle thing is out of whack.  Much of Obama's years were false actual bull market gains IMO.

2 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

And how many will blame Trump for it with zero economic background at all? 

Doesn't matter anymore.  We are a nation of grouped, identity imbeciles.....and I see no way this will change.  

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2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

This really doesn't play much though due to the massive debacle at the end of Bush's term.  The whole cycle thing is out of whack.  Much of Obama's years were false actual bull market gains IMO.

Doesn't matter anymore.  We are a nation of grouped, identity imbeciles.....and I see no way this will change.  

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25 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

no doubt if he is re-elected there will be a recession thats natural economic cycle.  it will be a miracle if it doesn't happen prior to the end of his first term given the fact we are in the second longest bull market in history. 

 

 

One key ingridiant in most busts is people walking on mortgages and dumping a lot of inventory into the market in a short time. I just don't see that happening within 2 yrs. The inventory isn't on the market now for them to buy and it usually takes a bit longer then 2 yrs before they fold . What are you seeing at work?

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1 hour ago, steve from amherst said:

One key ingridiant in most busts is people walking on mortgages and dumping a lot of inventory into the market in a short time. I just don't see that happening within 2 yrs. The inventory isn't on the market now for them to buy and it usually takes a bit longer then 2 yrs before they fold . What are you seeing at work?

inventory is lacking keeping prices up,  great time to dump a crappy house. 

i would agree that housing is part of many recessions(particularly 90/91 and 08/09) although the one in 00-01 coming out of the .com boom was not really housing base although it was shallower than any other decline as well.  I would think the next one may fall more along those lines.  We are seeing some indications that tech may be losing momentum and there are lot's of high valuations on companies that make no money similar to that time.   

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