Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) NY Times headline already trying to justify this kids actions. Its hard to be empathetic to someone who just murdered 17 people in cold blood. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion®ion=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&moduleDetail=undefined&pgtype=Multimedia First I've heard of the autism connection in this case. “He had emotional problems and I believe he was diagnosed with autism,” Mr. Gold said of Nikolas Cruz. “He had trouble controlling his temper. He broke things. He would do that sometimes at our house when he lost his temper. But he was always very apologetic afterwards.” Edited February 16, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2018 So let me guess , he is apologizing this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: So let me guess , he is apologizing this morning. Of course he isn't, he's still mentally ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2018 They sure liked to cal him Mr. Cruz a lot in that piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Skidooski said: They sure liked to cal him Mr. Cruz a lot in that piece. They should just call him "a perp" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, DAVE said: They should just call him "a perp" Yep... IMO they showed him to much respect with the Mr. crap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2018 Don't even say their name they want to be famous make them irrelevant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: NY Times headline already trying to justify this kids actions. Its hard to be empathetic to someone who just murdered 17 people in cold blood. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/nikolas-cruz-florida-shooting.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion®ion=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&moduleDetail=undefined&pgtype=Multimedia First I've heard of the autism connection in this case. “He had emotional problems and I believe he was diagnosed with autism,” Mr. Gold said of Nikolas Cruz. “He had trouble controlling his temper. He broke things. He would do that sometimes at our house when he lost his temper. But he was always very apologetic afterwards.” It’s a very big dilemma when it comes to these cases. Violently autistic. Is that where we draw the line in the sand for being able to buy weapons? What determines violence and what determines the scale of autism as being a deal breaker? Either way, the FBI screwed the pooch. You know full well if some brown kid was threatening bomb or death threats at a school they would have wrapped that kid up so quick it wouldn’t even be funny. Why the double standard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: It’s a very big dilemma when it comes to these cases. Violently autistic. Is that where we draw the line in the sand for being able to buy weapons? What determines violence and what determines the scale of autism as being a deal breaker? Either way, the FBI screwed the pooch. You know full well if some brown kid was threatening bomb or death threats at a school they would have wrapped that kid up so quick it wouldn’t even be funny. Why the double standard? Statistics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, DAVE said: Statistics... That we are more likely to have a white kid kill a bunch of people over a Muslim kid do it? Yeah I agree it’s statistically more likely that the white kid will do it. Why not act on that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: That we are more likely to have a white kid kill a bunch of people over a Muslim kid do it? Yeah I agree it’s statistically more likely that the white kid will do it. Why not act on that... We are programmed to think white people are good...and then theres the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 16, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, DAVE said: Statistics... 17 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: That we are more likely to have a white kid kill a bunch of people over a Muslim kid do it? Yeah I agree it’s statistically more likely that the white kid will do it. Why not act on that... 16 minutes ago, DAVE said: We are programmed to think white people are good...and then theres the others. So it has nothing to do with statistics but programmed preconceived ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: So it has nothing to do with statistics but programmed preconceived ideas. Exactly...but they always say statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Sounds like other than the FBI there were plenty of local police visits to his house, and plenty of so called Therapists who were lazy and rubber stamped this kid as no threat after repeated contact in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, F3600 said: Sounds like other than the FBI there were plenty of local police visits to his house, and plenty of so called Therapists who were lazy and rubber stamped this kid as no threat after repeated contact in the system. Ruh roh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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