ActionfigureJoe Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, JEFF said: And you somehow think that suicide should be included in that? maybe a botched suicide that happens to take you out as a bystander? Absolutely it ought to be included. By looking at the raw statistics, a human is two times more likely to commit suicide than murder when guns are available. The cost to society is just as great, possibly even more with suicide. Suicide and murder rates are both relative to the easy availability of firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Absolutely it ought to be included. By looking at the raw statistics, a human is two times more likely to commit suicide than murder when guns are available. The cost to society is just as great, possibly even more with suicide. Suicide and murder rates are both relative to the easy availability of firearms. So you've decided suicidal people will live if they can't get a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Absolutely it ought to be included. By looking at the raw statistics, a human is two times more likely to commit suicide than murder when guns are available. The cost to society is just as great, possibly even more with suicide. Suicide and murder rates are both relative to the easy availability of firearms. Why don't you compare that to drugs. Drugs are responsible for more suicides than guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, washedupmxer said: So you've decided suicidal people will live if they can't get a gun? Some truth to that. But I still think keeping suicides in gun deaths muddys up the water....unless you are anti-gun. It all sounds good then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, racer254 said: Why don't you compare that to drugs. Drugs are responsible for more suicides than guns. Because this thread involves firearms. Tell you what, start one on drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 4, 2018 21 hours ago, JEFF said: Explain New England, dipshit. He prefers to ignore. It throws a wrench in his theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 4, 2018 15 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: When something flies in the face of your personal narrative, you change the construct of the issue. You do ii frequently. As well as cherry picking statistics. Dude I was simply using your words and you know it. Take your ownage like a man and quit being a little bitch about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Because this thread involves firearms. Tell you what, start one on drugs. In 2015, deaths in the U.S. from drug overdose surpassed deaths from gun homicides and motor vehicles combined. Although finalized overdose death data have not yet been released for 2016, estimates indicate that overdose deaths are again set to eclipse total deaths from motor vehicle accidents and gun homicides. https://www.thedailybeast.com/are-fatal-overdoses-a-form-of-suicide Edited January 4, 2018 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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