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Episode 2 they said said it pulled over so hard they would consider buying one with electric start. They also said it took 2 pulls to start, every time. Which is weird as all prior cat laydown engines I've experienced start on the first pull, unless it hasn't run in days. They also rated it as "heavier feeling while riding" than doo, or poo, and spent a fair amount of time trying to figure out why ac won't build a normal skid with 2 rails for it, (that question gets asked all the time)

I didn't bother, @Palu49 beat us both to it, but he used it to show how few catalyst sleds ac built

Explain what is different with the crank, and how that would change anything at all, with how the engine runs, or feels to the rider Textron fired several of the experienced calibration guys when they took over, for a while there was 1 person heading engine calibration of dirt, and snow. They also fired an long time experienced calibration guy during the last round of firing engineering staff. Dynotech ran the engine to see how much HP it makes, because that's what everyone cares about on a new big engine. If no one cared about HP 440 fanners would be the biggest selling category. If you want test for throttle response and low end performance, you sure can. Listening to the snowest guys, you could hear the disappointment, they all seemed to make excuses for it

You've spent all summer claiming that sled he was on last spring was a stock production sled, and are trying to completely ignore how much time he has had testing and working on it during developlment

Leathers are abrasion resistant...

2nd year Zach has been racing it, and he had been working with it throughout development as well.

They can't even get the valving right on the standard shocks, you want them to valve, and calibrate software too

so a system that monitors breaking, acceleration (in all directions) and several other factors, then adjusts all 4 shocks 200 times a second, isn't even close to one you set on low and never touch all season???

turbo has more top end because it makes more hp I haven't torn down and measured both engines, but I'm willing to bet the 9 has higher compression ratio, and different porting than the turbo machine, hence the better response.

from a tech standpoint it would be as easy, or easier to make more hp by adding boost to the 850, than boosting the 9r

Thats what it is saying, but it could be made up, is all.

I'm not saying they do, or that they had anything to to with the claims in that screen shot

I've been saying anything less than the 9R isn't going to cut it. Doo, and poo haven't had their engine development guys sitting with their thumbs up their ass the last 8 years (and poo gained quite a few guys quality guys that textron fired) Chances are they both have the next generation ready to go, which is why AC needed to leap frog them, instead of just catching up. Hell poo will prob release the 9r trail sled in a couple days. Textron's marketing department has been claiming the 800 was "165 class horse power" for a long time. That lead to a ton of folks thinking the new engine will be in the 180's. every post and every thread around the release was full of people claiming it would be 165+11% Now it comes out and its the same "165 class horse power" I just hope it actually runs, if its clutched as bad as the 600 its going to be a blood bath next winter.

He said crown, not Crown Royal. Jimwit, and alaskan karen have the same beverage of choice:

better check your claims: https://snowgoer.com/news/ny-shootout-results-times-dyno-test-and-more/30053/ If consumers didn't care, we would all be riding free air singles.. HP and performance sells, right behind new tech. 600 cc sleds haven't been the top selling catagory in a decade or more. Until the catalyst came out, we sold more 998 turbos than 600's. In 2016 the 850 doo made 170 at dynotech, a year later the 840 poo made 167 or 169 Textron has had since 2018 to develop something better than that, and they had the best 2 stroke design/development team in the world to do it. But instead, they fired most of the team, and cut the r&d budget to almost 0. Those guys had patents on direct injected turbo (fed with pressurized oil) 2 stroke. What the end up putting out is an engine that equals a 8 year old doo, and a 7 year old poo, and comes in less than the 9r. Do you really thing that poo, and doo stopped development 8 years ago? This engine needed to meet or beat the 9r on the dyno, because just equaling the competition isn't going to be anywhere near enough to bring back all the customers they drove away, let alone bring in new customers.

going to have to disagree with you. I've had 3 or 4 600's '06 xf 600, bought it with rebates so I could put on f7 cylinders bored to 800 cc. rode it once stock, was disapointed '09 SX race sled, bought it new, rode it once, was cool and fun, but not fast, someone paid me $1500 more than I had into it, because they had to have it 09 SX race sled, #2 used practice sled, bought it to put a 1000 twin in. Ended up going with an F9ss that made 185 hp at Dynotec. That was a fun sled after the mods. 15 or 16 rxc, (year before the cutout seat) was a total pig. hit the wall in the 70's creeped to the low 80s fortunatly I was able to send the ecu to the race dept a couple of times and get it straightened out, don't think it would ever do 90, dumped it after one season. Even the girls I ride with are on 850's

Think he's going to admit to never having seen one, or not having the slightest clue how they work?

Yup, and here you are, the first one in this thread to start name calling...

Speaking of stupid... theoretical, and calculated, do not have anywhere near the same meaning. Also you have absolutely ZERO experience doing anything on an engine, and have never even seen a dyno. Everything you are claiming was made up in your empty head, and pulled out of your huge ass.

You've proven yourself wrong endlessly (and fucking stupid too) You know nothigh at all about engines, hp, or how a dyno works, and even less about dynotech. (who has a giant refrigeration system for the dyno) I know you aren't capable of figuring it out but the DA is right on the dyno sheet posted above. Since you are too stupid to even know what DA stands for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density_altitude

thats starting at 167, and doing the math to get 150.5