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Of course its not the only case. Ever hear of the war between the USSR and Afghanistan? I'm not nor have I ever made the case we are completely innocent nor do I fall that the likes of Iran is either.

I still say he is full of crap about virtually everything.

Nope what is that? You would think they would love us for that.

Aren't you in your 70's? What the fuck are you in individual stocks for? The markets are slightly up already. Fuck its laughable how people overreact to things.

I forgot how quickly some on here overreacted to this story.

In laughter at your stupidity.

Didn't make that claim. Just pointing out Ben's statement wasn't correct. You guys are the ones saying we deserve what we get putting and keeping the Shah in place over 40+ years ago. We've heard that for years on here. Can't they let that go? Besides Soleinami when was our last direct attack on Iran? Hezbollah and Hamas would likely not exist without Iran. Want me to list their attacks? I want out of the ME but claiming Iran's hands are free of American blood is fucking laughable. Hezbollah[edit] President Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy show respect to the victims of 1983 barracks bombing. Main article: Hezbollah During the 1980s and 1990s, a wave of kidnappings, bombings, and assassinations of Western targets, particularly American and Israeli, occurred in Lebanon and other countries. The attacks, attributed to Hezbollah, have included: The 1982-1983 Tyre headquarters bombings The blowing up of a van filled with explosives in front of the U.S. embassy in Beirut killing 58 Americans and Lebanese in 1983. The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing of the U.S. Marine and French 'Drakkar' barracks which killed 241 American and 58 French peacekeepers. On May 30, 2003, a U.S. federal judge ruled that Hezbollah carried out the attack at the direction of the Iranian government.[22] The 1983 Kuwait bombings in collaboration with the Iraqi Dawa Party.[23] The 1984 United States embassy annex bombing, killing 24 people.[24] The hijacking of TWA flight 847 holding the 39 Americans on board hostage for weeks in 1985 and murder of one U.S. Navy sailor The Lebanon hostage crisis from 1982 to 1992.[25] According to Middle East analyst James Philips, an August 1989 bombing in London was a failed Hezbollah assassination attempt on Indian-born British author Salman Rushdie, after the Iranian government put a $2.5 million bounty on his head over the novel The Satanic Verses.[26][27] Iranian officials have repeatedly called for Rushdie's death as recently as 2005.[28] The bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Argentina killing twenty-nine people in 1992. Hezbollah operatives boasted of involvement.[29] The bombing of a Jewish community center in Argentina killing 85 people in 1994. Hezbollah claimed responsibility.[30] Argentine justice accused Iran of being behind the attacks because of Buenos Aires' decision to suspend a nuclear material delivery and technology transfer.[31] The 1994 AC Flight 901 attack, killing 21 people, in Panama. Hezbollah claimed responsibility.[32] The 1996 Khobar Towers bombing, killing 19 US servicemen. On December 22, 2006, federal judge Royce C. Lamberth ruled that Iran was responsible for the attack, stating "The totality of the evidence at trial...firmly establishes that the Khobar Towers bombing was planned, funded, and sponsored by senior leadership in the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The defendants' conduct in facilitating, financing, and providing material support to bring about this attack was intentional, extreme, and outrageous."[33] The 2012 Burgas bus bombing, killing 6, in Bulgaria.[34] Hezbollah is believed to have carried out that attack on its own accord, without any Iranian involvement or foreknowledge.[35] Islamic Jihad is widely believed to be a nom de guerre of the Lebanese Islamist political movement and social service agency Hezbollah, which was founded in 1982 with many millions of dollars of aid and considerable training and logistical support from the Islamic Republic. Many believe the group promotes the Iranian agenda and that its goal is to overthrow the moderate governments in the area and create Islamic Republics based on that of Iran as well as the destruction of Israel.[36] Iran has supplied the militant organization Hezbollah with substantial amounts of financial, training, weapons (including long range rockets), explosives, political, diplomatic, and organizational aid while persuading Hezbolla to take an action against Israel.[37][38][39] Hezbollah's 1985 manifesto listed its four main goals as "Israel's final departure from Lebanon as a prelude to its final obliteration"[40] According to reports released in February 2010, Hezbollah received $400 million from Iran.[38] Its methods include assassinations, kidnappings, suicide bombings, and guerrilla warfare. It is believed to be one of the Islamic resistance groups that made suicide bombings common use. Other attacks credited to Hezbollah include: Firing of hundreds of rockets into northern Israel on a daily basis and capture of Israeli soldiers in 2006.[41] According to a senior U.S. intelligence officer, the 2005 assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri was carried out by Hezbollah at the direction of Iranian agents.[35] Shi'ite Militias in Iraq[edit] Iranian proxies killed an estimated 1,100 US troops in Iraq.[42] In addition, insurgents supported by Iran reportedly committed acts of terrorism.[35][43][44] The United States State Department states that weapons are smuggled into Iraq and used to arm Iran's allies among the Shiite militias, including those of the anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi army.[45] During his address to the United States Congress on September 11, 2007, Commanding Officer for the United States forces in Iraq, General David Petraeus noted that the multinational forces in Iraq found that Iran's Quds force had provided training, equipment, funding, and direction to Shi'ite militia groups. “When we captured the leaders of these so-called special groups … and the deputy commander of a Lebanese Hezbollah department that was created to support their efforts in Iraq, we’ve learned a great deal about how Iran has, in fact, supported these elements and how those elements have carried out violent acts against our forces, Iraqi forces and innocent civilians.”[43] In 2015, Michael Weiss and Michael Pregent accused the Popular Mobilization Units, an organization of 40 mainly-Shi'ite militias backed by Iran, of committing extensive atrocities against Sunni civilians in the course of their war against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, including "burning people alive in their houses, playing soccer with severed human heads, and ethnically cleansing and razing whole villages to the ground." Weiss and Pregent even suggested that "Iran's Shi'ite militias aren't a whole lot better than the Islamic State."[46]

Over running our embassy and holding our diplomats hostage for 444 days is not an attack? Its laughable you think Iran hasn't attacked American thru proxy means. Your lack of understanding is cute.

Did some Salmon on it last night. God damn that was good. Added a honey mustard glaze to it as well. https://greenmountaingrills.com/recipes/pellet-grilled-salmon-filet/

It would be pretty easy to see them mistaking it for a US plane.

Without question the threat of attacks thru proxy or terrorist groups is still a significant chance. Especially when so many American's don't believe they don't do such things. Part of the reason they keep after us in this manner. Do you now all of a sudden?

Propaganda for the people at home. Nothing more....nothing less.

Well they will say he was "impeached by the house."

Local HY-Vee has like 8 EV charging stations. Been there for over 3 years. I've seen 1 car parked there in all the times I stop. Complete waste of money for them.

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They are awesome smoked.

This morning oil was a $1 less per barrel than yesterday.

ZERO chance she sends them over this week and doubtful she will before the election. They are convinced having a President that has been impeached by the house during the election will help their chances. They are too retarded to understand it hurts them with independents.

Agree to disagree. While their capabilities are nowhere near ours they have better ballistic tech than the scuds Iraq had in the early 90's. They would not have wanted to accidentally kill a bunch of American's because they know it would have been catastrophic to their country. We would have hammered them. On top of that if they really wanted to hit something they would have went after our bases much closer to their border. This was appeasement for the radical portion of their population and why they are claiming to have killed Americans when they didn't.

Not what I read this morning. They are deployed in other area's of the ME. U.S. defense officials told Fox News the U.S. military did not attempt to shoot down the ballistic missiles fired from Iran because there were no American military assets in place to intercept them. The Patriot and Avenger anti-missile defense systems are deployed to other locations in the Middle East, but not to the two Iraqi bases targeted by Iran. Officials say the American assets are in high demand and short supply around the world. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-make-statement-on-iranian-missile-strikes-assures-nation-all-is-well

Almost anything could be called an act of war especially if it involved the military or countries intelligence. Just because a country acts thru proxies doesn't mean those are not acts of war either.

Iran's attack on the Saudi oil refinery were quite accurate and advanced including the use of drones. I'm sure little of their own technology but effective none the less. They chose to miss and smartly so.

None there.

I guess I was just spewing propaganda.