ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-41701718 Edited October 26, 2017 by ActionfigureJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Jesus. Do you have a fucking opinion of your own or is this another FSCE news/editorial thread? You know, most of us get the internet and thus, other news and media on our own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-41701718 Good story. The problem is big pharma and Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 26, 2017 So what did you think about Trumps speech today on this topic and the actions he is taking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Jesus. Do you have a fucking opinion of your own or is this another FSCE news/editorial thread? You know, most of us get the internet and thus, other news and media on our own. Go back to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: So what did you think about Trumps speech today on this topic and the actions he is taking? I’m sure he hated everything about it and disagreed with it all. But, he’s waiting for the proper podcast to give him his talking points before he discusses anything. How “intellectual”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: So what did you think about Trumps speech today on this topic and the actions he is taking? Terms like “evil” when describing opioid use isn’t going to cut it. I haven’t really heard any actual legislative plans other than banning one legal opioid. I liked the fact that he talked about his brother’s struggles. Good stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Good story. The problem is big pharma and Congress. So what do you propose? Some people need opioids for pain control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: Terms like “evil” when describing opioid use isn’t going to cut it. I haven’t really heard any actual legislative plans other than banning one legal opioid. I liked the fact that he talked about his brother’s struggles. Good stuff. He talked about developing non addictive pain medication and maybe this has been proposed or discussed in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Good story. The problem is big pharma and Congress. So people are in no way responsible for their own actions? How about Dr's whom have been prescribing them at alarming levels for how many years now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, Biggie Smails said: So what do you propose? Some people need opioids for pain control. Too many are using opioids for pain control. The use of opiates or opioids for the control of chronic pain is a very new phenomena the cane out of one single research paper dying the 1980’s. The research was simply wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Jesus. Do you have a fucking opinion of your own or is this another FSCE news/editorial thread? You know, most of us get the internet and thus, other news and media on our own. well you do a lousy job of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: So what do you propose? Some people need opioids for pain control. the same stuff they used prior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, JEFF said: So people are in no way responsible for their own actions? How about Dr's whom have been prescribing them at alarming levels for how many years now? The makers of OxyContin knew its addictive potential and buried the findings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 i don't mean a stick to chew on and bottle of whiskey either smails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: He talked about developing non addictive pain medication and maybe this has been proposed or discussed in the past. What’s wrong with pain remedies that require some effort on the individual’s part? We need to move away from the ‘take a pill’ mentality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: the same stuff they used prior? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: well you do a lousy job of it Oh contraire! I’m a tremendous intellectual. Just terrific. Very, very tremendous. Bigly intellectual!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Oh contraire! I’m a tremendous intellectual. Just terrific. Very, very tremendous. Bigly intellectual!!! Yeah, that’s obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Yeah, that’s obvious. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The makers of OxyContin knew its addictive potential and buried the findings. When? Pretty sure it was widely known that it's extremely addictive since the early 2000's? The Rush Limbaugh Oxy mess was in 2005 or 6? So in ten plus years people are still surprised by it's addictive qualities? It's still big pharma's fault? (Not that i even remotely like big pharma). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JEFF said: When? Pretty sure it was widely known that it's extremely addictive since the early 2000's? The Rush Limbaugh Oxy mess was in 2005 or 6? So in ten plus years people are still surprised by it's addictive qualities? It's still big pharma's fault? (Not that i even remotely like big pharma). Quite honestly I don’t give a fuck who you wanna blame. But if you’re interested Google Purdue Pharma $600,000,000 lawsuit. Edited October 26, 2017 by ActionfigureJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JEFF said: When? Pretty sure it was widely known that it's extremely addictive since the early 2000's? The Rush Limbaugh Oxy mess was in 2005 or 6? So in ten plus years people are still surprised by it's addictive qualities? It's still big pharma's fault? (Not that i even remotely like big pharma). i agree with some of that to an extent. hell the tobacco industry "pushed" cigarettes, and still do. while not as deadly, they are a health hazard. what also baffles my mind is that the high dangers of heroin, meth and other shit are well known. so who in the fuck thinks "hmmmm, i'd like to try that shit?" we have a family member who dabbles in some of this and he's lost about 4 friends, mostly in over doses. we fear getting a phone call one of these days with the news. but i do want our gov to help with the problem because it's out of control. big pharma should not be allowed to push this shit the way they do. Edited October 26, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Quite honestly I don’t give a fuck who you wanna blame. As this topic hits very close to home i say keep on blaming the wrong people asshole. Personal responsibility is paramount in the fight against opioids. Just now, Snoslinger said: i agree with some of that to an extent. hell the tobacco industry "pushed" cigarettes, and still do. while not as deadly, they are a health hazard. what also baffles my mind is that the high dangers of heroin, meth and other shit are well known. so who in the fuck thinks "hmmmm, i'd like to try that shit?" we have a family member who dabbles in some of this and he's lost about 4 friends mostly in over doses. we fear getting a phone call one of these days with the news. but i do want our gov to help with the problem because it's out of control. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, JEFF said: As this topic hits very close to home i say keep on blaming the wrong people asshole. Personal responsibility is paramount in the fight against opioids. Bingo. You can go condemning and pointing fingers. Ill keep posting facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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