Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 Dem infighting. Guy is actually spot on with Sanders and his multiple homes. Sanders draws Democratic challenger tired of his 'Robin Hood shtick' Bernie Sanders’ enduring popularity across Vermont for decades has scared off political challengers, but the Independent senator is facing competition in his 2018 re-election bid from a Democrat who thinks his “Robin Hood shtick” must end. “It’s shamefully arrogant when you’re more interested in being a celebrity than honoring your progressive agenda,” challenger Jon Svitavsky told Fox News. “This wonderful, political ‘I am Robin Hood shtick’ can only last for so long.” The longshot bid comes from a first-time candidate even more anti-establishment than the democratic socialist incumbent and, in his words, "far more liberal." An advocate for the homeless who claims to have some name recognition in the state, Svitavsky not only questions the sitting senator's commitment to Vermont voters but argues he used and undermined the Democratic Party for his 2016 presidential bid. Svitavsky contends Sanders joined Democrats to seek their nomination, then damaged front-runner Hillary Clinton enough to give then-candidate Donald Trump the edge in the general election -- only to once again become an Independent. He also suggests an FBI investigation into a commercial real estate loan orchestrated by the senator’s wife, Jane Sanders, has left Sanders vulnerable. FBI PROBE OF SANDERS' WIFE BASED ON 'FACTS,' GOP OFFICIAL SAYS While his curmudgeonly manner has long alienated Capitol Hill colleagues, Sanders, a self-styled champion of the poor and middle class, continues to be immensely popular among voters. A Morning Consult survey released Tuesday showed him with the highest approval rating among all 100 senators, 75 percent, based on interviews with registered voters in their respective states. However, the poll was conducted from early April to mid-June, largely before reports of the loan started attracting national attention. There also have been unsubstantiated allegations that Sanders, now seeking a third Senate term, used his political office to either get the loan approved or at least OK’d swiftly. The senator, in various interviews, has called such claims an "absolute lie"while describing the criticism of his wife as "pathetic" and political. The self-described democratic socialist also has more than $3.8 million cash on hand in Senate accounts, according to OpenSecrets.org, which only adds to Svitavsky’s complications. Svitavsky hopes to win the state’s Democratic primary and challenge Sanders in the general election. In an interview Tuesday, he sounded undeterred by Sanders’ popularity and war chest, saying that his decades-long efforts in opening homeless shelters across the state has given him standing among voters. “I think that resonates,” he said. “And I’m not unknown here. People might say I don’t have political experience but not that I’m insincere. … I’m far more liberal than Bernie, far more committed to making things happen.” Svitavsky says he's getting strong grassroots support from across the state and country -- including a call from a guy who used to play with folk-singing legend Pete Seeger. The Sanders campaign has declined to comment on Svitavsky’s bid. Before Sanders was elected to the Senate in 2006, he served 19 years in the House and eight as mayor of Burlington. He was re-elected to the Senate in 2012 with 71 percent of the vote, as proof of his political strength. There has been no indication that the 75-year-old Sanders intends to retire before next year. And one source close to his 2016 presidential campaign recently told Fox News he wants to run for president again in 2020. Right now, Sanders is still among the leading voices for national Democrats, even taking the spotlight from Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez during a recent, multi-state tour that attempted to bridge the party’s lingering Clinton-Sanders divide. “He’s not a Democrat. That was a joke,” said Svitavsky, who argues the Democratic Party was outfoxed by Sanders but is now coming to its senses. Svitavsky cannot officially file to run until next spring. Sanders and his White House bid captured the political interests of tens of millions of voters -- particularly younger Americans -- with promises of a free college education, universal health care and legalized marijuana. However, Svitavsky largely dismissed those promises as unrealistic because they would be too expensive for taxpayers, even if Congress approved them. “This cannot go on forever,” he said. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/13/sanders-draws-democratic-challenger-tired-his-robin-hood-shtick.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well look at the bright side. When one Dem beats another Dem they can actually celebrate a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 So this guy is far more progressive than Sanders but he's pissed because Sanders damaged Hillary???? Sounds like this guys is a fucking fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 The last part hit on the nose. But this guys clearly another whack job too. Clearly one Moto and his band of merry man can support whole heartedly. Quote Sanders and his White House bid captured the political interests of tens of millions of voters -- particularly younger Americans -- with promises of a free college education, universal health care and legalized marijuana. However, Svitavsky largely dismissed those promises as unrealistic because they would be too expensive for taxpayers, even if Congress approved them. “This cannot go on forever,” he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: The last part hit on the nose. But this guys clearly another whack job too. Clearly one Moto and his band of merry man can support whole heartedly. Yah , we sure as shit cant be paying to educate our citizens when we need to march around the world dumping trillions chasing little brown men with Ak's and sabre rattling with tin can dictators in NK what a fucking joke this country is....and its retarded attitudes like yours that make it this way We cant afford healthcare , we cant afford education , we cant feed people ..... WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR TH DEFENSE BUDGET !!!!!!!!!!11111111 Fucking idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah , we sure as shit cant be paying to educate our citizens when we need to march around the world dumping trillions chasing little brown men with Ak's and sabre rattling with tin can dictators in NK what a fucking joke this country is....and its retarded attitudes like yours that make it this way We cant afford healthcare , we cant afford education , we cant feed people ..... WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR TH DEFENSE BUDGET !!!!!!!!!!11111111 Fucking idiot Fuck you and your idiotic "Here today, Anarchist tomorrow" routine. Get a better brain.....before I beat your current one in with a hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I think sanders started out with decent intentions but when he realized he couldn't beat the DNC corruption he cashed in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: Fuck you and your idiotic "Here today, Anarchist tomorrow" routine. Get a better brain.....before I beat your current one in with a hammer. I worry about Ben. Makes posts like this then claims to support Ron Paul. Me no think he understand what either of the Paul's stand for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: I worry about Ben. Makes posts like this then claims to support Ron Paul. Me no think he understand what either of the Paul's stand for. The fucking shit-stirrer wants to hate for the sake of hating on hate. And hates anybody that hates haters for hating.....until he changes his mind in the next ten minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: The fucking shit-stirrer wants to hate for the sake of hating on hate. And hates anybody that hates haters for hating.....until he changes his mind in the next ten minutes. Makes you wonder. Paul would end dept of education not give federally funded free college. Edited July 13, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: I worry about Ben. Makes posts like this then claims to support Ron Paul. Me no think he understand what either of the Paul's stand for. You dont get it do you ....I supported a fully libertarian agenda. The reality is we will never get it and we will never shrink the budget. If we are gonna deficit spend our selves into oblivion I would much prefer that money be spent on the betterment of Americans instead of sewing the seeds of turmoil worldwide that perpetuate the destruction of our rights and the advancement of an agenda driven by the MIC. I support those with ideas that are not rooted in corruption and am willing to give cast a wide net of acceptance if someone wants to try new things in this country. Especially when they are right minded and not an evil pawn of the people who are killing our nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Fuck you and your idiotic "Here today, Anarchist tomorrow" routine. Get a better brain.....before I beat your current one in with a hammer. Get your own lines little momo , I just offered to beat your skull in with a hammer not 10 hours ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 My take on behn is he mostly believes what he writes but really cranks it up to get a rise out of you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 And his favourite band is Muse holy fuck that's gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Rod Johnson said: My take on behn is he mostly believes what he writes but really cranks it up to get a rise out of you guys pish posh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: Get your own lines little momo , I just offered to beat your skull in with a hammer not 10 hours ago You're fucking dense!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111 Why do you think I used it? Jfhjsjdhfjdjdbdjdjkdhffbjsidygdvenakdiffurvsjskufhbdkdufbejskhdbjdurndjufvhnrjeksksbrvtvtjdjfb17374848373747483838 ass wipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hes gonna take a beating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: You're fucking dense!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111 Why do you think I used it? Jfhjsjdhfjdjdbdjdjkdhffbjsidygdvenakdiffurvsjskufhbdkdufbejskhdbjdurndjufvhnrjeksksbrvtvtjdjfb17374848373747483838 ass wipe. lolz oiuqsdpiouhsqdapciohpqdspiuchqspidhcqpisduhvpiqsdjnvpiqsdjvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: You dont get it do you ....I supported a fully libertarian agenda. The reality is we will never get it and we will never shrink the budget. If we are gonna deficit spend our selves into oblivion I would much prefer that money be spent on the betterment of Americans instead of sewing the seeds of turmoil worldwide that perpetuate the destruction of our rights and the advancement of an agenda driven by the MIC. I support those with ideas that are not rooted in corruption and am willing to give cast a wide net of acceptance if someone wants to try new things in this country. Especially when they are right minded and not an evil pawn of the people who are killing our nation. The libertarian agenda is a constitutional agenda. The defense of our nation is the main constitutional responsibility of the fed govt. Education is not. Absolutely it (defense) has gotten completely out of hand and I think could be cut by 50% if we stop being the worlds policeman. I think virtually all federal agencies could. I've said it before WW2 put us on an unrecoverable path. No question we have to drink some sour milk with most candidates however I'd suggest your flip from "libertarian" to full on socialism or communism is a bit odd. Edited July 13, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: The libertarian agenda is a constitutional agenda. The defense of our nation is the main responsibility of the fed govt. Education is not. Absolutely it (defense) has gotten completely out of hand and I think could be cut by 50% if we stop being the worlds policeman. I've said it before WW2 put us on an unrecoverable path. No question we have to drink some sour milk with most candidates however I'd suggest your flip from "libertarian" to full on socialism or communism is a bit odd. So assuming the money will be spent ....which is a completely safe assumption....it makes me a communist to want it spent on caring for people instead of nation building??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Also , just so we're clear. Our military and its existence today are an affront to the Constitution. The constitution makes clear the danger of standing armies and what we have today if far worse than anything they could have ever imagined. Paying defense contractors massive budgets while the nation is under no threat and then those contractors turning around and spending a large % of those tax dollars lobbying for more war and supporting politicians who will guarantee it. Just bringing up the Constitution in the defense of our military as it exists is disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: So assuming the money will be spent ....which is a completely safe assumption....it makes me a communist to want it spent on caring for people instead of nation building??? Dude you rant you preach the same things Moto does and he's basically an admitted communist. Communism is simply a form of socialism and in reality about the only way it has historically succeeded long term. That type of authoritarian control is about the only way full on socialism has "worked." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Dude you rant you preach the same things Moto does and he's basically an admitted communist. Communism is simply a form of socialism and in reality about the only way it has historically succeeded long term. That type of authoritarian control is about the only way full on socialism has "worked." What moto advocates for has never been tried anywhere in the world ever. There has never been a bigger socialist enterprise in the history of the world than the US military. I am all for returning our approach to the military to a strict constitutional understanding and interpretation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 13, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: Also , just so we're clear. Our military and its existence today are an affront to the Constitution. The constitution makes clear the danger of standing armies and what we have today if far worse than anything they could have ever imagined. Paying defense contractors massive budgets while the nation is under no threat and then those contractors turning around and spending a large % of those tax dollars lobbying for more war and supporting politicians who will guarantee it. Just bringing up the Constitution in the defense of our military as it exists is disgusting I don't deny its got out of hand. http://www.heritage.org/defense/report/constitutional-basis-defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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