jtssrx Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts theguardian.com John McCain passes dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts to FBI Julian Borger Senator John McCain passed documents to the FBI director, James Comey, last month alleging secret contacts between the Trump campaign and Moscow and that Russian intelligence had personally compromising material on the president-elect himself. The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant. BuzzFeed on Tuesday published the documents, which it said were “unverified and potentially unverifiable”. The dossier includes lurid details from Trump’s 2013 visit to Moscow and claims an ‘extensive conspiracy’ between his team and the Kremlin – is it true? The Guardian has not been able to confirm the veracity of the documents’ contents, and the Trump team has consistently denied any hidden contacts with the Russian government. A spokesman for the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday denied Russia has collected compromising information on Trump and dismissed news reports as a “complete fabrication and utter nonsense”. Dmitry Peskov insisted that the Kremlin “does not engage in collecting compromising material”. Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but late on Tuesday, Trump tweeted: “FAKE NEWS – A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” He made no direct reference to the allegations. An official in the US administration who spoke to the Guardian described the source who wrote the intelligence report as consistently reliable, meticulous and well-informed, with a reputation for having extensive Russian contacts. Some of the reports – which are dated from 20 June to 20 October last year – also proved to be prescient, predicting events that happened after they were sent. One report, dated June 2016, claims that the Kremlin has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years, with the aim of encouraging “splits and divisions in western alliance”. It claims that Trump had declined “various sweetener real estate deals offered him in Russia” especially in developments linked to the 2018 World Cup finals but that “he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.” Most explosively, the report alleges: “FSB has compromised Trump through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him.” The president-elect has not responded to the allegations. What began as opposition research during the Republican primary slowly grew from a covert investigation into an extraordinary but unverified global story CNN reported on Tuesday that the FBI was still investigating the credibility of the documents but added that the intelligence chiefs had included a summary of the material in a secret briefing on Russian interference in the election delivered last week to Barack Obama and Donald Trump. The emergence of the documents is potentially explosive, 10 days before Trump’s inauguration and on the eve of his first planned press conference since July last year. Despite glowing references from US and foreign officials who have worked with the source, there are some errors in the reports. One describes the Moscow suburb of Barvikha as “reserved for the residences of the top leadership and their close associates”, but although it is a very expensive neighbourhood, there are no restrictions on who can own property there. The document also misspells the name of a Russian banking corporation. The FBI does not normally make any comment on ongoing counter-intelligence investigations but was under increasing pressure from Democrats and some Republicans to act before the inauguration, particularly because of Comey’s announcement of a continuing investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server 11 days before the election, which many of her supporters believe cost her the presidency. The reports were initially commissioned as opposition research during the presidential campaign, but its author was sufficiently alarmed by what he discovered to send a copy to the FBI. It is unclear who within the organisation they reached and what action the bureau took. The former Democratic Senate leader, Harry Reid, has lambasted Comey for publicising investigations into Hillary Clinton’s private server, while allegedly sitting on “explosive” material on Trump’s ties to Russia. Another Democratic senator, Ron Wyden, questioned Comey insistently at a Senate intelligence committee hearing on Tuesday on whether the FBI was pursuing leads on Trump campaign contacts with Russia. “Has the FBI investigated these reported relationships?” Wyden asked. Comey replied: “I would never comment on investigations … in a public forum. The Guardian can confirm that the documents reached the top of the FBI by December. Senator John McCain, who was informed about the existence of the documents separately by an intermediary from a western allied state, dispatched an emissary overseas to meet the source and then decided to present the material to Comey in a one-on-one meeting on 9 December, according to a source aware of the meeting. The documents, which were first reported on last year by Mother Jones, are also in the hands of officials in the White House. FBI director says ‘I would never comment on investigations in an open forum’ but response stuns senators after his public remarks on Clinton’s email case McCain is not thought to have made a judgment on the reliability of the documents but was sufficiently impressed by the source’s credentials to feel obliged to pass them to the FBI. The Senate armed services committee, which Senator McCain chairs, launched an inquiry last week into Russian cyber-attacks during the election. McCain was reluctant to get involved, according to a colleague, for fear the issue would be dismissed as a personal grudge against Trump. He pushed instead for the creation of a special Senate committee to look into connections between campaign staff and Moscow, but the proposal was blocked by the Republican leadership. McCain told the NBC programme Meet the Press on Sunday: “I would like to see a select committee. Apparently that is not in agreement by our leadership. So we will move forward with the armed services committee and I’m sure foreign relations and intelligence committee will as well.” But the senator added: “It is possible if enough information comes out, that that decision could be reversed. I still think it’s the best way to attack the issue.” Asked on the same programme on whether an investigation was ongoing into campaign links to Moscow, Senator Lindsey Graham, another conservative Republican said: “I believe that it’s happening.” According to the report passed to Comey, Russian intelligence allegedly gathered compromising material during Trump’s stay in Moscow in November 2013, when he was in the city to host the Miss Universe pageant. Sign up to get the day’s top stories delivered straight to your inbox every morning Another report, dated 19 July last year said that Carter Page, a businessman named by Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers, had held a secret meeting that month with Igor Sechin, head of the Rosneft state-owned oil company and a long-serving lieutenant of Vladimir Putin. Page also allegedly met Igor Divyekin, an internal affairs official with a background in intelligence, who is said to have warned Page that Moscow had “kompromat” (compromising material) on Trump. Two months later, allegations of Page’s meetings surfaced in the US media, attributed to intelligence sources, along with reports that he had been under FBI scrutiny. Page, a vociferous supporter of the Kremlin line, was in Moscow in July to make a speech decrying western policy towards Russia. At the time he declined to say whether he had been in contact with Russian officials, but in September he rejected the reports as “garbage”. The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation. A month after Trump’s surprise election victory, Page was back in Moscow saying he was meeting with “business leaders and thought leaders”, dismissing the FBI investigation as a “witch-hunt” and suggesting the Russian hacking of the Democratic Party alleged by US intelligence agencies, could be a false flag operation to incriminate Moscow. Another of the reports compiled by the former western counter-intelligence official in July said that members of Trump’s team, which was led by campaign manager Paul Manafort (a former consultant for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine), had knowledge of the DNC hacking operation, and in return “had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/Nato defence commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine”. A few days later, Trump raised the possibility that his administration might recognise Russia’s annexation of Crimea and openly called on Moscow to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails. In August, officials from the Trump campaign intervened in the drafting of the Republican party platform, specifically to remove a call for lethal assistance to Ukraine for its battle against Moscow-backed eastern rebels. The campaign denied a Slate report that said activity on an organization server indicated ‘sustained relationship’ with Russia’s largest private commercial bank Manafort stepped down in August as campaign manager and the campaign steadily distanced itself from Page. However, Trump’s praise of Putin and defence of Moscow’s actions in Ukraine and Syria remained one of the few constants in his campaign talking points. Manafort has denied secret links with Moscow calling the allegation “an outrageous smear being driven by Harry Reid and the Clinton campaign”. Since then, Trump has consistently cast doubt on Russian culpability for hacking the Democratic National Committee, defying a consensus of 17 national intelligence agencies. After Obama deported 35 Russian diplomats in retaliation for Moscow’s intervention, Trump praised Putin for not carrying out tit-for-tat deportations of US diplomats. “I always knew he was very smart,” he tweeted. An FBI spokesman declined to comment after the CNN report. Edited July 11, 2017 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jtssrx Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: OMG How is it different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, jtssrx said: How is it different? If you have to ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snoslinger Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 jtssrx never disappoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 You've chosen to ignore content by SnowRider. Options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: jtssrx never disappoints You and your cronies never fail on not giving an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: You and your cronies never fail on not giving an answer. because you're basically a waste of time. we respond to your BS with facts, like the Clinton foundation not closing, only to read you repeating the same old bs weeks later. you're being too dumb to have to ask this question is another reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) The question isn't the fact that McCain turned it over to the FBI and or Media the question is who paid for it and why wasn't it properly vetted. There is nothing wrong with McCain turning it over to the FBI or IC. The issue was who released it to the media. McCain? Comey? Clapper? Rice? Whomever did that should be going to jail. The whole thing was basically proven to be false, even one of the authors (MI6 Agent) said so. What is worse paying a firm to create false documents or meeting with someone who may have had credible information. If the Trump team paid for and released false information like this I'd be calling for his resignation. Edited July 11, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: The question isn't the fact that McCain turned it over to the FBI and or Media the question is who paid for it and why wasn't it properly vetted. The whole thing was basically proven to be false, even one of the authors (MI6 Agent) said so. What is worse paying a firm to create false documents or meeting with someone who may have had credible information. If the Trump team paid for and released false information like this I'd be calling for his resignation. Not only that but it was an United States Senator collecting Dirt to use against a Presidential candidate same as Trump Jr trying to get Dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Just now, jtssrx said: Not only that but it was an United States Senator collecting Dirt to use against a Presidential candidate same as Trump Jr trying to get Dirt. Did he collect it or was he just given it? Nothing released on Hillary or her campaign was proven false. The "dossier" was a complete sham. Edited July 11, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Did he collect it or was he just given it? Nothing released on Hillary or her campaign was proven false. The "dossier" was a complete sham. No it's not. In fact parts have been proven true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, ICEMAN! said: No it's not. In fact parts have been proven true. Please do show us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Please do show us. Google is your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, ICEMAN! said: Google is your friend. Just like I thought. Nothing. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/11/trump-russia-dossier-explainer-details http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/20/nyt-columnist-calls-it-striking-how-little-evidence-there-is-for-trump-russia-collusion/ NYT Columnist Calls It ‘Striking How Little Evidence’ There Is For Trump, Russia Collusion JACK CROWE Fellow 10:30 AM 06/20/2017 STEPHANOPOULOS; Do you agree with this conclusion that the president has reached that there was no evidence of collusion?MANCHIN: You know, we haven't seen any of that whatsoever, George. We've been looking and showing everything they possibly have. That has not led to that. We have ultimate -- all of us have the utmost respect for Bob Mueller, both on the Democrat and Republican side. I believe he's going to do his job thoroughly. We will accept his recommendation and pathway forward and I think that's extremely important that we all agree this is the right person, the right time to do this type of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Damn. ICEMAN is a complete idiot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 McCains a patriot and as MC reminds us Trumps a TRAITOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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