f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 22 minutes ago, HSR said: Don't tell him that Minnesota is 1200 ft above sea level average. It will fuck up his entire argument. Why would it do that? Did the skidoo make more than its SAE certified power rating at 1200’ above sea level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, f7ben said: Didn’t ski doo even say that it didn’t make more hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: Why would it do that? Did the skidoo make more than its SAE certified power rating at 1200’ above sea level? Yes and the N/A makes less at 1200 ft than at sea level. How often do you ride a sled at sea level and where? As a general rule, a naturally aspirated combustion engine will lose 3% of its power for every 1,000 ft of elevation gain. If you have 100 horsepower at sea level by the time you get to 5,000 feet of elevation your engine is making 85 horsepower. At 10,000 feet of elevation your engine will make 70 horsepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Ben your SAE certified 155hp 800 doesn't even make 150 in Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, HSR said: Ben your SAE certified 155hp 800 doesn't even make 150 in Minnesota. The power rating is at sea level , if the turbo system is not designed to exceed that power rating it is not turbo charged. cant be any simpler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, Rod said: Didn’t ski doo even say that it didn’t make more hp? Of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 56 minutes ago, f7ben said: Skidoo added no power with their turbo , simply maintained it. It’s normalized , not charged. Even an inbred fucking low Iq dumbfuck like you should be able to grasp it. But Noooooo The turbo added power at elevation over its NA cousin. So it added power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The turbo added power at elevation over its NA cousin. So it added power. Can't be any simpler than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The turbo added power at elevation over its NA cousin. So it added power. But that’s not where engine power is rated , sorry man ….youre dumb as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, f7ben said: But that’s not where engine power is rated , sorry man ….youre dumb as fuck This is a dumb conversation over semantics. The turbo beats the NA at altitude but not SL. It has more power at altitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: This is a dumb conversation over semantics. The turbo beats the NA at altitude but not SL. It has more power at altitude. It’s not semantics , there are two different utilizations of turbos and they have very long standing definitions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, f7ben said: It’s not semantics , there are two different utilizations of turbos and they have very long standing definitions Well I don’t disagree with that. One is used to make more power across the altitude spectrum and the other used to make more power above sea level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 13 minutes ago, f7ben said: But that’s not where engine power is rated , sorry man ….youre dumb as fuck Ben does your sled make corrected hp or uncorrected hp? The turbo makes more uncorrected hp above sea level. Do you even know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Well I don’t disagree with that. One is used to make more power across the altitude spectrum and the other used to make more power above sea level. No ……one is used to maintain rated hp regardless of elevation and one is used to exceed rated hp regardless of elevation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, HSR said: Ben does your sled make corrected hp or uncorrected hp? Do you even know? Shut up stupid , you’ve proven yourself dumb as fuck and I’m your intellectual superior by a significant margin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Shut up stupid , you’ve proven yourself dumb as fuck and I’m your intellectual superior by a significant margin Then why did you start this thread and call me out? You can call yourself whatever you want, like your definitions, it doesn't make it true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So just to sum it up. The 850 N/A Doo doesn't make SAE corrected hp ANYWHERE in the snowmobile world except on paper. The 850 Turbo ( first release) makes SAE corrected HP from sea level to 10000ft. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, HSR said: So just to sum it up. The 850 N/A Doo doesn't make SAE corrected hp ANYWHERE in the snowmobile world except on paper. The 850 Turbo ( first release) makes SAE corrected HP from sea level to 10000ft. End of story. Yes , and that is by definition turbo normalized. Thanks for that summation retard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yes , and that is by definition turbo normalized. Thanks for that summation retard Yes via a turbocharger, that little wheel adding boosted pressure. You don't tell all your dumb friends your sleds make SAE HP do you? Just to make it sound better? Our N/A sleds don't make corrected hp dummy, dynos do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HSR said: Yes via a turbocharger, that little wheel adding boosted pressure. You don't tell all your dumb friends your sleds make SAE HP do you? Just to make it sound better? Our N/A sleds don't make corrected hp dummy, dynos do. Hey , I’m not the one who came up the with the definitions. Take it up with all the engineers in the aircraft industry for 100 years ago Edited March 11 by f7ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 53 minutes ago, f7ben said: Hey , I’m not the one who came up the with the definitions. OK then show where it says that turbocharged is defined by Making more than SAE certified hp at sea level OR Turbocharged has a specific definition and that means it makes a pressure above 1 atmosphere. Please If an engine is built for the Pikes Peak race and dyno tuned for the 5000ft starting line (uncorrected hp) and then they add a turbo to maintain power to the 14,000 ft starting line are they turbocharged? That is what they call that class, weird, you should call them. They DGAF about sea level, ever. Also IIRC the aftermarket dyno's found the turbo actually made a few more "corrected hp" than the n/a versions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, HSR said: OK then show where it says that turbocharged is defined by Making more than SAE certified hp at sea level OR Turbocharged has a specific definition and that means it makes a pressure above 1 atmosphere. Please If an engine is built for the Pikes Peak race and dyno tuned for the 5000ft starting line (uncorrected hp) and then they add a turbo to maintain power to the 14,000 ft starting line are they turbocharged? That is what they call that class, weird, you should call them. They DGAF about sea level, ever. Also IIRC the aftermarket dyno's found the turbo actually made a few more "corrected hp" than the n/a versions TLDR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, f7ben said: TLDR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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f7ben Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, HSR said: Yah except the only person on your side is retarded awful lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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