Rod Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Ukraine is so screwed they can’t even run their government without billions from the US biden really created a shit show. There is no good end game here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, Rod said: Ukraine is so screwed they can’t even run their government without billions from the US biden really created a shit show. There is no good end game here What are you even talking about?!? NO one thought Ukraine would have been able to do what they’ve done thus far. Putin created a shitshow and miscalculated big time, irregardless if Ukraine can push them entirely out or not. Ukraine had the choice of bending over or fighting. We know what you would do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: What are you even talking about?!? NO one thought Ukraine would have been able to do what they’ve done thus far. Putin created a shitshow and miscalculated big time, irregardless if Ukraine can push them entirely out or not. Ukraine had the choice of bending over or fighting. We know what you would do. Irregardless isn’t a word bro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, akvanden said: What are you even talking about?!? NO one thought Ukraine would have been able to do what they’ve done thus far. Putin created a shitshow and miscalculated big time, irregardless if Ukraine can push them entirely out or not. Ukraine had the choice of bending over or fighting. We know what you would do. I see it a little different, I think Putin knew he was taking on the UN, and if I remember correctly didn't Putin threaten to do what he did if the UN went ahead with their plan to stage military equipment on the borders. They did and he responded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Rod said: Irregardless isn’t a word bro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I see it a little different, I think Putin knew he was taking on the UN, and if I remember correctly didn't Putin threaten to do what he did if the UN went ahead with their plan to stage military equipment on the borders. They did and he responded. NATO , not the UN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, f7ben said: NATO , not the UN Thank you, I'm going by memory and not google, and it's been over a year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 Just now, f7ben said: NATO , not the UN Correct Putins goal was to not allow Ukraine into nato. He accomplished that. And now he’s not going to stop because he can’t. NATO won’t accept a country that’s in active conflict like they said. They basically had an agreement to end this war right after it started. Biden and Boris Johnson stopped that agreement from happening. Now Ukraine Is fucked and the US owns this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, Rod said: Correct Putins goal was to not allow Ukraine into nato. He accomplished that. And now he’s not going to stop because he can’t. NATO won’t accept a country that’s in active conflict like they said. They basically had an agreement to end this war right after it started. Biden and Boris Johnson stopped that agreement from happening. Now Ukraine Is fucked and the US owns this 100% , we got in bed with a pile of corrupt Nazis to keep Russia the boogeyman and to keep Biden’s Ukraine secrets safe. Nothing more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, Rod said: Irregardless isn’t a word bro 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: yes it is, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, akvanden said: yes it is, bro. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 14 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I see it a little different, I think Putin knew he was taking on the UN, and if I remember correctly didn't Putin threaten to do what he did if the UN went ahead with their plan to stage military equipment on the borders. They did and he responded. 8 minutes ago, Rod said: Correct Putins goal was to not allow Ukraine into nato. He accomplished that. And now he’s not going to stop because he can’t. NATO won’t accept a country that’s in active conflict like they said. They basically had an agreement to end this war right after it started. Biden and Boris Johnson stopped that agreement from happening. Now Ukraine Is fucked and the US owns this And now he’ll have three joining NATO rather than zero; Finland having the largest border with Russia of any NATO country. Smart move, Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The point of the "irregardless" is to shut down conversation. So "irregardless" is a word. It has a specific use, in particular dialects. That said, it's not part of standard English and so — especially if you're writing or if you're speaking in formal places — you want to use "regardless" instead.Jun 5, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: The point of the "irregardless" is to shut down conversation. So "irregardless" is a word. It has a specific use, in particular dialects. That said, it's not part of standard English and so — especially if you're writing or if you're speaking in formal places — you want to use "regardless" instead.Jun 5, 2017 Correct. Regardless is the actual word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, f7ben said: The point of the "irregardless" is to shut down conversation. So "irregardless" is a word. It has a specific use, in particular dialects. That said, it's not part of standard English and so — especially if you're writing or if you're speaking in formal places — you want to use "regardless" instead.Jun 5, 2017 “Irregardless is an adverb that is synonymous with regardless. It means “without regard” or “without paying attention to the current situation.” Merriam-Webster's Dictionary explanation recognizes the word” Yes, it’s a word. But let’s keep going with this, since we’re all proper word smiths when we need to deflect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, akvanden said: And now he’ll have three joining NATO rather than zero; Finland having the largest border with Russia of any NATO country. Smart move, Russia. I don't think they're too worried about Finland, they'll just sit at the border and drink together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, akvanden said: “Irregardless is an adverb that is synonymous with regardless. It means “without regard” or “without paying attention to the current situation.” Merriam-Webster's Dictionary explanation recognizes the word” Yes, it’s a word. But let’s keep going with this, since we’re all proper word smiths when we need to deflect. The number one google hit when searching the word is “why do idiots use the word irregardless” lol , it’s a fucking double negative. There is no way using ir and less in the same word is proper speech REGARDLESS of what some stupid Ebonics dictionary says 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, f7ben said: The number one google hit when searching the word is “why do idiots use the word irregardless” lol , it’s a fucking double negative. There is no way using ir and less in the same word is proper speech REGARDLESS of what some stupid Ebonics dictionary says Well irregardless, I’m glad we’re having this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I don't think they're too worried about Finland, they'll just sit at the border and drink together. I think they’re already upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, akvanden said: I think they’re already upset. So in other words it's political posturing to allow the US to do their fighting while they sit back and drink with their buddies. But in all seriousness it was NATO's aggressiveness that pushed Russia to respond, so do we want to keep kicking a Bear that has nuclear weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, airflite1 said: So in other words it's political posturing to allow the US to do their fighting while they sit back and drink with their buddies. But in all seriousness it was NATO's aggressiveness that pushed Russia to respond, so do we want to keep kicking a Bear that has nuclear weapons. Russia has a history of this, NATO or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, akvanden said: Russia has a history of this, NATO or not. I'm not a fan of globalism and to me that's what drives NATO and the UN. And my biggest issue is it's become common that the US his expected to finance all this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I'm not a fan of globalism and to me that's what drives NATO and the UN. And my biggest issue is it's become common that the US his expected to finance all this. Ukraine literally can’t even run it’s government without constant billions from the US so what’s the end game here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, Rod said: Ukraine literally can’t even run it’s government without constant billions from the US so what’s the end game here maybe let Ukraines neighbors decide for themselves without US interference. Like it was stated NATO's aggression is what triggered the Russian invasion, it's back to who want's to control the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 24 minutes ago, Rod said: Ukraine literally can’t even run it’s government without constant billions from the US so what’s the end game here Ukraine was running before Biden, granted with only hundreds of millions from Trump (pre war) in military hardware. End game is already complete with Russia, even if they take and hold the annexed regions. They’ve been severely degraded. Irregardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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