Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 as of this moment... I'd take either over Trump and Biden your thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 yesterday I was thinking... dipshits on both sides might want a Trump/Biden rematch, because either should be easily beaten and imo the MAGAt's want a do-over for 2020 which I feel they'd lose again and Trump would further divide the country. let's move on... and be done with both of these useless tools 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: yesterday I was thinking... dipshits on both sides might want a Trump/Biden rematch, because either should be easily beaten and imo the MAGAt's want a do-over for 2020 which I feel they'd lose again and Trump would further divide the country. let's move on... and be done with both of these useless tools IMO party platform and issues are more important. At a minimum - I’ll take the guy who respects our Democracy and doesn’t attempt to undermine the peaceful transfer of power. You can whine, cry and look for better options but in the end it’s a zero sum game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: IMO party platform and issues are more important. At a minimum - I’ll take the guy who respects our Democracy and doesn’t attempt to undermine the peaceful transfer of power. You can whine, cry and look for better options but in the end it’s a zero sum game. there is no upside for a Biden/Trump rematch... zero sum game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: there is no upside for a Biden/Trump rematch... zero sum game Those are probably your options. Biden and the Dems offers substantially more upside than MAGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 Did you spend most of your life voting red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: Those are probably your options. Biden and the Dems offers substantially more upside than MAGA. I disagree otb and I loathe Trump in case you haven't noticed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: Did you spend most of your life voting red? nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I disagree otb and I loathe Trump in case you haven't noticed At a minimum their floor is much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: nope Third party? Dem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Any Republican will bring chaos back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, SnowRider said: Third party? Dem? generally speaking... for POTUS 3rd party (so I helped give us Clinton twice as an example) and for local/state/federal offices I pick the candidate most closely aligned with my values. getting back to the topic at hand... neither Biden or Trump will get my vote if we have to do 2020 all over again. primaries matter and the upcoming one is more important to the future of this country than any in my 53 years on this planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Fuck that religious freak Hutchinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, Mainecat said: Any Republican will bring chaos back. there's a lot of people sick of the far left and far right controlling the narrative a centrist from either side would do well imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Fuck that religious freak Hutchinson him or DeSantis you pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: generally speaking... for POTUS 3rd party (so I helped give us Clinton twice as an example) and for local/state/federal offices I pick the candidate most closely aligned with my values. getting back to the topic at hand... neither Biden or Trump will get my vote if we have to do 2020 all over again. primaries matter and the upcoming one is more important to the future of this country than any in my 53 years on this planet. So you’re supporting MAGA by proxy. It is important but you’re willing to let democracy die because you let the perfect get in the way of the good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: there's a lot of people sick of the far left and far right controlling the narrative a centrist from either side would do well imo Stability is what voters want and like. The Republican Party is no more. It’s just a gang of crazy morons who are trying to out idiot the next guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: him or DeSantis you pick That’s shit and more shit. I’d probably consider Manchin over either of them and maybe a toss up between Manchin and Desantis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: there's a lot of people sick of the far left and far right controlling the narrative a centrist from either side would do well imo The problem with third party voters is you show up and bitch every 4 years. Where’s your local candidates? Who’s putting in the work day in and day out to promote your cause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: So you’re supporting MAGA by proxy. It is important but you’re willing to let democracy die because you let the perfect get in the way of the good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, f7ben said: That’s shit and more shit. I’d probably consider Manchin over either of them and maybe a toss up between Manchin and Desantis Ron is Don. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: And it’s spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Ron is Don. Ron is a bootlicker for sure and that’s a huge turn off. Ron is right on covid , Ron is right on guns and Ron is right on the absolute bullshit trans garbage. Ron can fuck off on the rest but the issues I outlined above make Ron the best choice of the field so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted April 2, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 2, 2023 Just now, f7ben said: Ron is a bootlicker for sure and that’s a huge turn off. Ron is right on covid , Ron is right on guns and Ron is right on the absolute bullshit trans garbage. Ron can fuck off on the rest but the issues I outlined above make Ron the best choice of the field so far. So you’re into culture wars? Big issue in NMN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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