Cold War Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: I think you may actually believe that. We have an example of Dems completely in control with the worst schools, crime, fraud, corruption, systematic racism, filth, government dependence in the country. Why do you think dummy and the media keep ignoring it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 17, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Cold War said: We have an example of Dems completely in control with the worst schools, crime, fraud, corruption, systematic racism, filth, government dependence in the country. Why do you think dummy and the media keep ignoring it? Where? If it’s so bad - why not move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: It’s a zero sum situation. Until third party wannabes are willing to put in the work at the ground level, local election after local election instead of showing up and complaining every 4 years - the ceiling will merely be serving as a spoiler helping one party over the other in some elections. And the irony is the party they are more aligned with is often the one who’s hurt the most. 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Agreed. And what makes up that 3rd party? Fiscally conservative socially liberal? Socially conservative fiscally liberal? There is no perfect mix to make any larger % of the people happy than the 1/3 1/3 1/3 split we have now. 3rd party would be Republicans and independents. Don't need any dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 17, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve753 said: 3rd party would be Republicans and independents. Don't need any dems. Go for it. Hope Donald goes 3rd party when Ron wins the nomination: Let is know how that works out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, SnowRider said: Where? If it’s so bad - why not move? https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/minnesota-math-reading-scores-drop-to-lowest-in-decades-remain-above-national-average/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 18, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2023 16 hours ago, steve from amherst said: in my area it is this. Also probably the least religious state, so im sure that changes as one moves inland But even inside that it vary's widely. Many are pro choice and pro gay marriage but think this whole gender thing is completely fucked. Honestly I think it virtually impossible at least at the level for running for public office to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I can't think there ever was really one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 18, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 18, 2023 15 hours ago, Steve753 said: 3rd party would be Republicans and independents. Don't need any dems. Wouldn't be enough as the core issues would still split who would be in it. Fact is there is no perfect candidate or party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Even if a 3rd party candidate could win. You can't expect a 3rd party candidate to get anything done with the other 525 members. Edited January 18, 2023 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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