Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) bill clinton making a real, unannounced bombing run on a suspect terrorist weaponry factory in sudan was "wagging the dog", designed to divert attention from things at home trump making announced bombing runs on an airfield in Syria makes him a hero, protecting us from evil amirite? Edited April 7, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It's all designed to enrich the MIC so how the media manipulates the public is just a matter of tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: bill clinton making a real, unannounced bombing run on a suspect terrorist weaponry factory in sudan was "wagging the dog", designed to divert attention from things at home trump making announced bombing runs on an airfield in Syria makes him a hero, protecting us from evil amirite? Is there 1 person on here who agrees with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Anler said: Is there 1 person on here who agrees with you? I'm sure there a few, many won't admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: I'm sure there a few, many won't admit it. I think Snake is on your side, and yeah i dont think he will admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: I'm sure there a few, many won't admit it. Mainecat, ICEMAN and catman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Skidooski said: Mainecat, ICEMAN and catman? I dont think MC is on board. I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Anler said: I dont think MC is on board. I could be wrong. Slinger is looking more and more lonely standing by himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'll admit this has the smell of wag the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Can you think of one POTUS that would not destroy the airfield in which attacked civilians with gas? Can you think of one that would have done the same that Clinton did? Would there have been outcry if Trump didn't blow up that base? Yes. Would there have been outcry if Clinton didn't do what he did? No, or not to the extent. Therefor your claim is a false equivalency. I'd rather we just ignored the ME as a whole. Let those fuckers handle their own problems. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Slinger is looking more and more lonely standing by himself you're one of the ones afraid to admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Can you think of one POTUS that would not destroy the airfield in which attacked civilians with gas? Can you think of one that would have done the same that Clinton did? Would there have been outcry if Trump didn't blow up that base? Yes. Would there have been outcry if Clinton didn't do what he did? No, or not to the extent. Therefor your claim is a false equivalency. I'd rather we just ignored the ME as a whole. Let those fuckers handle their own problems. Great points but I still don't agree with the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Can you think of one POTUS that would not destroy the airfield in which attacked civilians with gas? Can you think of one that would have done the same that Clinton did? Would there have been outcry if Trump didn't blow up that base? Yes. Would there have been outcry if Clinton didn't do what he did? No, or not to the extent. Therefor your claim is a false equivalency. I'd rather we just ignored the ME as a whole. Let those fuckers handle their own problems. yep, Obama that is fact. duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Great points but I still don't agree with the attack. I don't either. Stay out of their affairs. But on the scale of outraged mine is pretty low here. Of all the interventionist actions, this is as close as you can get to being justifiable. Still wrong, but not as bad as let's say invading a country on doctored intel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I don't either. Stay out of their affairs. But on the scale of outraged mine is pretty low here. Of all the interventionist actions, this is as close as you can get to being justifiable. Still wrong, but not as bad as let's say invading a country on doctored intel. Completely agree with this. Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: yep, Obama that is fact. duh. Oh, I was mistaken.. He would never drop bombs on a ME country we were not at war with. You are so right!!! My bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I don't either. Stay out of their affairs. But on the scale of outraged mine is pretty low here. Of all the interventionist actions, this is as close as you can get to being justifiable. Still wrong, but not as bad as let's say invading a country on doctored intel. i 100% agree with this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Oh, I was mistaken.. He would never drop bombs on a ME country we were not at war with. You are so right!!! My bad. Obama didn't attack Syria because he was trying to become buds with Russia and especially Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Oh, I was mistaken.. He would never drop bombs on a ME country we were not at war with. You are so right!!! My bad. the topic is syria and chemical weapons. he had the chance to do something militarily but did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Obama didn't attack Syria because he was trying to become buds with Russia and especially Iran. I look at it from a different perspective. Those who have bombs dropped on them hardly care about the socio-political ramifications. They just care that someone is dropping bombs. So if Obama did it for one reason and Trump did it posturing for Putin, I don't feel it matters in the more tangible and real nature. That being, it is still intervening in an unnecessary manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: the topic is syria and chemical weapons. he had the chance to do something militarily but did not. I would argue the topic is dropping bombs on a sovereign nation without threat to America or its allies in a direct means such as those chemical weapons were dropped on US forces or our actual allies. IE: not the Al Qaieda that we apparently like now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I would argue the topic is dropping bombs on a sovereign nation without threat to America or its allies in a direct means such as those chemical weapons were dropped on US forces or our actual allies. IE: not the Al Qaieda that we apparently like now... bush dropped bombs in the ME, Obama dropped bombs in the ME, trump drops bombs in the ME, Clinton would have dropped bombs in the ME and so on and so on. so there's really no point in discussing those situations. what you and i are talking about now is the actions of trump vs Obama in Syria, specifically based on their usage of chem weapons. nothing to do with anti-terrorism measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 Pure speculation but I'm guessing Tomahawks would have been flying rather Clinton, or Sanders was in the WH. Out of all the POTUS candidates from the 2 major parties I honestly think Rand Paul is the only one who would have held back. Sanders supporters flame away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Oh, I was mistaken.. He would never drop bombs on a ME country we were not at war with. You are so right!!! My bad. Why doesnt the media report on all of the innocent lives our drones kill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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