Carbon Dioxide has reached highest levels not seen in millions of years...NOAA

[racer254]

24 minutes ago, irv said:

Guess they thought we'd better cover all weather/climate normalcies  just in case the sheep figure it out. 

According to NOAA, these rising temperatures have unleashed a cascade of weather impacts, including episodes of extreme heat, drought and wildfire activity, as well as heavier precipitation, flooding and tropical storm activity.

"Could"      OH MY GOD!!!!! Lets pay our gov't an exorbitant amount of taxes to offset this just in case! "Oh, what a fool believes" 

 

Dumb people will believe anything related to climate change.  Back to the elites such as United Nations and the DC Swamp trying to push the climate change hoax.

[ViperGTS/Z1]

1 hour ago, irv said:

Guess they thought we'd better cover all weather/climate normalcies  just in case the sheep figure it out. 

According to NOAA, these rising temperatures have unleashed a cascade of weather impacts, including episodes of extreme heat, drought and wildfire activity, as well as heavier precipitation, flooding and tropical storm activity.

 

 

 

Looks like NOAA is correct....

And you believe these are all "normalcies" ?.... maybe normalcies of a warming planet.....to deny we are warming is ludacris.

 

48 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Dumb people will believe anything related to climate change.  Back to the elites such as United Nations and the DC Swamp trying to push the climate change hoax.

 So, we are not warming?.... all stats say otherwise and yes I know we have warmed before..... you don't have to blame it on man made ...you can think it's a natural cycle but we are warming there is no denying it.

I'm not into carbon credits and rushing into electric and all that crap......we just need to adapt to the ever growing undeniably warming world we live in..... I don't feel there is nothing much we can do to change it .... pump as much CO2 as we can at this point, I'm an admitted selfish Boomer and really could care less about future Generations.    They are the ones that will really need to adapt... let them figure it out..... I will be long gone... good luck to them

[irv]

1 hour ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Looks like NOAA is correct....

And you believe these are all "normalcies" ?.... maybe normalcies of a warming planet.....to deny we are warming is ludacris. So, we are not warming?.... all stats say otherwise and yes I know we have warmed before..... you don't have to blame it on man made ...you can think it's a natural cycle but we are warming there is no denying it.

I'm not into carbon credits and rushing into electric and all that crap......we just need to adapt to the ever growing undeniably warming world we live in..... I don't feel there is nothing much we can do to change it .... pump as much CO2 as we can at this point, I'm an admitted selfish Boomer and really could care less about future Generations.    They are the ones that will really need to adapt... let them figure it out..... I will be long gone... good luck to them

It is, is it?? 

What proof do you have we are warming? We break cold records almost annually, including this year in parts of the world. Us, up here, just broke a 30+ yr record for having to wait as long as we did for our first 20 degree day. Europe broke all kinds of cold and snow records this past winter. We experienced just 10 degrees c here last night and it is supposed to go down to 8 tonight, and our PM and his batch of cronies told us 2 yrs ago, Canada is warming up 2-3 times faster than any other country on earth. In case you forgot, today is June 4th. It goes on and on, but but "GLOBAL" warming!! 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/04/04/europe-record-cold-france-agriculture/ 

 

Edited June 4, 2022 by irv

[ViperGTS/Z1]

2 minutes ago, irv said:

It is, is it?? 

What proof do you have we are warming? We break cold records almost annually, including this year in parts of the world. Us, up here, just broke a 30+ yr record for having to wait as long as we did for our first 20 degree day. Europe broke all kinds of cold and snow records this past winter. We experienced just 10 degrees c here last night and it is supposed to go down to 8 tonight. It case you forgot, today is June 4th. It goes on and on, but but "GLOBAL" warming!! 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/04/04/europe-record-cold-france-agriculture/ 

 

That's called "weather"....individual events.   Come-on  man.

Not to mention the ice sheets that Spin posted. How do you not think we are warming GLOBALLY

 

[irv]

1 minute ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

That's called "weather"....individual events.   Come-on  man.

Not to mention the ice sheets that Spin posted. How do you not think we are warming GLOBALLY

 

And climate central is the go to site that tells honest, unbiased truth and has peer review dudes/gals who, if you present something to them that contradicts their narrative, they don't shame you and kick you to the curb? 

Figure it out, dude. You're being played just like others have been prior to us.

  

 

[spin_dry]

4 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

That's called "weather"....individual events.   Come-on  man.

Not to mention the ice sheets that Spin posted. How do you not think we are warming GLOBALLY

 

I have to chuckle. This was the very first year since grooming began in the area I lived that the groomers never left the garage. Hours on the groomers have been getting less and less every year that goes by. 

[irv]

8 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

I have to chuckle. This was the very first year since grooming began in the area I lived that the groomers never left the garage. Hours on the groomers have been getting less and less every year that goes by. 

So, that's conclusive that the earth is warming up??? What about other parts of the world that are experiencing record cold and snow? The climate has changed forever and always will, but, just because we have off years or even decades for that matter, doesn't mean we are warming up where climate change can now be referred to as a climate crisis. Read up on the different epochs. The smart people knew what we are currently experiencing regarding the climate was going to happen because it always has. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_periods_and_events_in_climate_history

[spin_dry]

2 minutes ago, irv said:

So, that's conclusive that the earth is warming up??? What about other parts of the world that are experiencing record cold and snow? The climate has changed forever and always will, but, just because we have off years or even decades for that matter, doesn't mean we are warming up where climate change can now be referred to as a climate crisis. Read up on the different epochs. The smart people knew what we are currently experiencing regarding the climate was going to happen because it always has. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_periods_and_events_in_climate_history

I understand. You’re convinced that man made CO2 can’t force nature’s hand. 

[irv]

2 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

I understand. You’re convinced that man made CO2 can’t force nature’s hand. 

No. Volcanoes, natural methane dumps, oil seepage, etc, are all natural things on this planet but those are never mentioned nor shown. What we emit pales in comparison to what these natural occurring things emit into the atmosphere.

Wetlands. Wetlands are the largest natural source of methane. This produces 78% of natural methane emissions.

Wetlands, termites and the oceans are all natural sources of methane emissions. The methane produced by natural sources is completely offset by natural methane sinks. This has been so for thousands of years.

The world's largest natural oil seepage is Coal Oil Point in the Santa Barbara Channel, California. Three of the better known tar seep locations in California are McKittrick Tar Pits, Carpinteria Tar Pits and the La Brea Tar Pits. At Kern River Oil Field, there are no currently active seeps.

https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/how-the-ocean-works/seafloor-below/natural-oil-seeps/

It's odd, isn't it, that if you look up info regarding any of the above, the only info available is just from a few years ago. 

I wonder why that has been removed? 

[Steve753]

16 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

I understand. You’re convinced that man made CO2 can’t force nature’s hand. 

What forced nature's hand before the climate change bullshit?

[Steve753]

4 minutes ago, irv said:

No. Volcanoes, natural methane dumps, oil seepage, etc, are all natural things on this planet but those are never mentioned nor shown. What we emit pales in comparison to what these natural occurring things emit into the atmosphere.

Wetlands. Wetlands are the largest natural source of methane. This produces 78% of natural methane emissions.

Wetlands, termites and the oceans are all natural sources of methane emissions. The methane produced by natural sources is completely offset by natural methane sinks. This has been so for thousands of years.

The world's largest natural oil seepage is Coal Oil Point in the Santa Barbara Channel, California. Three of the better known tar seep locations in California are McKittrick Tar Pits, Carpinteria Tar Pits and the La Brea Tar Pits. At Kern River Oil Field, there are no currently active seeps.

https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/how-the-ocean-works/seafloor-below/natural-oil-seeps/

It's odd, isn't it, that if you look up info regarding any of the above, the only info available is just from a few years ago. 

I wonder why that has been removed? 

 

It's all a huge money grab. If there wasn't any money to be made from it, liberals wouldn't gaf. 

[irv]

Just now, Steve753 said:

It's all a huge money grab. If there wasn't any money to be made from it, liberals wouldn't gaf. 

Exactly. That's all it is.

 

[spin_dry]

3 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

What forced nature's hand before the climate change bullshit?

Primarily particulate matter and greenhouse gases. 

[Steve753]

1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

Primarily particulate matter and greenhouse gases. 

So there's always been climate change you're saying and it's not man made.

[spin_dry]

Just now, Steve753 said:

So there's always been climate change you're saying and it's not man made.

You asked me what caused it. I answered. 

[Steve753]

Just now, spin_dry said:

You asked me what caused it. I answered. 

No. I asked you what caused climate change before the bullshit. Which means blaming climate change on humans.

[spin_dry]

Just now, Steve753 said:

No. I asked you what caused climate change before the bullshit. Which means blaming climate change on humans.

And I answered you. Greenhouse gasses and particulate matter. Same thing humans are putting into the atmosphere. 

[ViperGTS/Z1]

1 hour ago, irv said:

And climate central is the go to site that tells honest, unbiased truth and has peer review dudes/gals who, if you present something to them that contradicts their narrative, they don't shame you and kick you to the curb? 

Figure it out, dude. You're being played just like others have been prior to us.

  

 

Look, all I'm asking is for you to admit we are warming.....the video of the ice sheets isn't made up. I can see that with my own eyes. You can argue all you want about what's causing it. Personally I don't give a shit and I'm going to leave the biggest CO2 footprint I can.. but for you not to admit we are warming is Flat Earth j.t. stupid

 

[SkisNH]

It's the big bright thing in the sky...carbon Increase has followed the temperature Increase not lead it....as the sun goes through maximum and minimum cycles the earth warms and cools.

[SkisNH]

18 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Look, all I'm asking is for you to admit we are warming.....the video of the ice sheets isn't made up. I can see that with my own eyes. You can argue all you want about what's causing it. Personally I don't give a shit and I'm going to leave the biggest CO2 footprint I can.. but for you not to admit we are warming is Flat Earth j.t. stupid

 

But is it man made? Is it a problem? Will the earth make more food when it's warmer or cooler?

[irv]

1 minute ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Look, all I'm asking is for you to admit we are warming.....the video of the ice sheets isn't made up. I can see that with my own eyes. You can argue all you want about what's causing it. Personally I don't give a shit and I'm going to leave the biggest CO2 footprint I can.. but for you not to admit we are warming is Flat Earth j.t. stupid

 

Good luck as there isn't chance I'll admit the earth is warming. The "earth", like always, has had warm and cool cycles and always will and why that is called cyclical. The earth is billions of years old. Volcanoes explode every 5 to 10,000 years. In geological times, that is a pittance of time, or a few weeks, possibly a month. We have been on this planet for a blink of an eye nothing more. 

If you actually believe the "planet" is warming up, hence the term "global warming" then things should be pretty equal worldwide, no? Tell me, if that is the case, shouldn't glaciers be melting worldwide instead of growing? Shouldn't everywhere in the world being warming up at relatively the same rate or speed? 

Were you aware Glacier National park had to remove all their signs that read "All Glaciers in this park will be gone by 2020 due to man made global warming" Did you know that that never happened, that the glaciers never melted but actually grew? There's lots more. Educate yourself and quit reading the propaganda and referring to fake news sites whose sole purpose is to brainwash you. 

https://www.krtv.com/news/montana-and-regional-news/glacier-national-park-is-removing-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signs

https://www.kpax.com/news/local-news/flathead-county/glacier-national-park-to-remove-all-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signs

https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-national-parks-gone-by-2020-signs/

And since you seem to be easily fooled by fake news, here's one right from CNN who also told the story.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-2020-trnd/index.html#:~:text=(CNN) The signs at Glacier,spokeswoman Gina Kurzmen told CNN.

 Here's a bunch of articles that actually say the earth is cooling rather than heating up. Truthfully, since we've had 2-3 global ice ages, I'd say that is more likely than us heating up to the point where everything on this planet perishes. 

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/20972/20190504/expert-says-the-earth-is-actually-cooling.htm

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jan/05/how-greenhouse-gases-are-actually-cooling-earths-upper-atmosphere

https://www.axios.com/2021/05/11/global-warming-cooler-temperatures-2021

And here's a list of shamed, shunned and silenced scientists who don't agree with you and the likes of Al Gore, Bill Nye, David Suzuki and Obama.

https://electroverse.net/the-list-scientists-who-publicly-disagree-with-the-current-consensus-on-climate-change/

And one last thing. What do you suppose melted all the glaciers before man was ever stepped foot on this planet? Would that not also be considered global warming? 

 

[Steve753]

20 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Look, all I'm asking is for you to admit we are warming.....the video of the ice sheets isn't made up. I can see that with my own eyes. You can argue all you want about what's causing it. Personally I don't give a shit and I'm going to leave the biggest CO2 footprint I can.. but for you not to admit we are warming is Flat Earth j.t. stupid

 

The earth has always warmed and cooled naturally. The warming that is occurring now is not man made.

[spin_dry]

1 hour ago, irv said:

No. Volcanoes, natural methane dumps, oil seepage, etc, are all natural things on this planet but those are never mentioned nor shown. What we emit pales in comparison to what these natural occurring things emit into the atmosphere.

Wetlands. Wetlands are the largest natural source of methane. This produces 78% of natural methane emissions.

Wetlands, termites and the oceans are all natural sources of methane emissions. The methane produced by natural sources is completely offset by natural methane sinks. This has been so for thousands of years.

The world's largest natural oil seepage is Coal Oil Point in the Santa Barbara Channel, California. Three of the better known tar seep locations in California are McKittrick Tar Pits, Carpinteria Tar Pits and the La Brea Tar Pits. At Kern River Oil Field, there are no currently active seeps.

https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/how-the-ocean-works/seafloor-below/natural-oil-seeps/

It's odd, isn't it, that if you look up info regarding any of the above, the only info available is just from a few years ago. 

I wonder why that has been removed? 

 

Thank you for agreeing with me. Greenhouses and particulate matter. Have you always been this fucking dense? 

[ViperGTS/Z1]

54 minutes ago, irv said:

Good luck as there isn't chance I'll admit the earth is warming. The "earth", like always, has had warm and cool cycles and always will and why that is called cyclical. The earth is billions of years old. Volcanoes explode every 5 to 10,000 years. In geological times, that is a pittance of time, or a few weeks, possibly a month. We have been on this planet for a blink of an eye nothing more. 

If you actually believe the "planet" is warming up, hence the term "global warming" then things should be pretty equal worldwide, no? Tell me, if that is the case, shouldn't glaciers be melting worldwide instead of growing? Shouldn't everywhere in the world being warming up at relatively the same rate or speed? 

Were you aware Glacier National park had to remove all their signs that read "All Glaciers in this park will be gone by 2020 due to man made global warming" Did you know that that never happened, that the glaciers never melted but actually grew? There's lots more. Educate yourself and quit reading the propaganda and referring to fake news sites whose sole purpose is to brainwash you. 

https://www.krtv.com/news/montana-and-regional-news/glacier-national-park-is-removing-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signs

https://www.kpax.com/news/local-news/flathead-county/glacier-national-park-to-remove-all-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signs

https://nypost.com/2020/01/10/the-telling-tale-of-glacier-national-parks-gone-by-2020-signs/

And since you seem to be easily fooled by fake news, here's one right from CNN who also told the story.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-2020-trnd/index.html#:~:text=(CNN) The signs at Glacier,spokeswoman Gina Kurzmen told CNN.

 Here's a bunch of articles that actually say the earth is cooling rather than heating up. Truthfully, since we've had 2-3 global ice ages, I'd say that is more likely than us heating up to the point where everything on this planet perishes. 

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/20972/20190504/expert-says-the-earth-is-actually-cooling.htm

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jan/05/how-greenhouse-gases-are-actually-cooling-earths-upper-atmosphere

https://www.axios.com/2021/05/11/global-warming-cooler-temperatures-2021

And here's a list of shamed, shunned and silenced scientists who don't agree with you and the likes of Al Gore, Bill Nye, David Suzuki and Obama.

https://electroverse.net/the-list-scientists-who-publicly-disagree-with-the-current-consensus-on-climate-change/

And one last thing. What do you suppose melted all the glaciers before man was ever stepped foot on this planet? Would that not also be considered global warming? 

 

I don't need propaganda to lead me the way..... I've done a lot of my own research from both sides of the equation. There is absolutely no doubt we are warming. Falling ice shelves .polar caps receding is indicative of a warming world.

  you believe what you want I'll believe what I have determined as truth...... personally I like to listen to James Hansen, he pretty much has this shit down and has been very accurate. But you go ahead and listen to what's up watts

I know this is only Regional but we have a  later start to the snowmobile season or ends earlier or both...... things have certainly not gotten better over the years.

Again this is not something you and I have to worry about for the long term..... will have zero effect on our lifetimes.... but I do see the changes they are readily evident

 

[Steve753]

10 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

I don't need propaganda to lead me the way..... I've done a lot of my own research from both sides of the equation. There is absolutely no doubt we are warming. Falling ice shelves .polar caps receding is indicative of a warming world.

  you believe what you want I'll believe what I have determined as truth...... personally I like to listen to James Hansen, he pretty much has this shit down and has been very accurate. But you go ahead and listen to what's up watts

I know this is only Regional but we have a  later start to the snowmobile season or ends earlier or both...... things have certainly not gotten better over the years.

Again this is not something you and I have to worry about for the long term..... will have zero effect on our lifetimes.... but I do see the changes they are readily evident

 

All that being said, do you think man is responsible or do you think it's natural?