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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 17, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 17, 2021 Its shameful if true. There simply was not enough pregnant women (if any) in the original trials to justify forcing the jab on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Highmark said: Its shameful if true. There simply was not enough pregnant women (if any) in the original trials to justify forcing the jab on them. Surprised they would have turned her away. There have been studies though. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/the-covid19-vaccine-and-pregnancy-what-you-need-to-know?amp=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 17, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, akvanden said: Surprised they would have turned her away. There have been studies though. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/the-covid19-vaccine-and-pregnancy-what-you-need-to-know?amp=true Very limited and someone shouldn't be denied HC because of this choice. I think the statement "outweigh any known or potential risks" is part propaganda and used over and over when discussing this experimental vaccine. Who exactly is making that distinction? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html Evidence about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy has been growing. These data suggest that the benefits of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine outweigh any known or potential risks of vaccination during pregnancy. Edited August 17, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Highmark said: Very limited and someone shouldn't be denied HC because of this choice. I think the statement "outweigh any known or potential risks" is part propaganda and used over and over when discussing this experimental vaccine. Who exactly is making that distinction? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html Evidence about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy has been growing. These data suggest that the benefits of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine outweigh any known or potential risks of vaccination during pregnancy. Most likely the vast majority of doctors, ones who are medically trained and know more on the subject than keyboard warriors. There’s no evidence that the vaccines are leading to increased miscarriages, still births, etc. To imply otherwise or cast doubts is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, akvanden said: Most likely the vast majority of doctors, ones who are medically trained and know more on the subject than keyboard warriors. There’s no evidence that the vaccines are leading to increased miscarriages, still births, etc. To imply otherwise or cast doubts is wrong. You realize, don't you, (not likely) that any doctor/nurse/medical professional that doesn't toe the line is being silenced and shunned? https://www.modernhealthcare.com/labor/why-are-some-healthcare-workers-refusing-covid-vaccines https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210628/huge-number-of-hospital-workers https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-wont-some-health-care-workers-get-vaccinated-2021021721967 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-health-care-worker-reluctance/ https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 17, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, akvanden said: Most likely the vast majority of doctors, ones who are medically trained and know more on the subject than keyboard warriors. There’s no evidence that the vaccines are leading to increased miscarriages, still births, etc. To imply otherwise or cast doubts is wrong. Who's implying that? Fact is we aren't giving it to young kids so why would we give it to pregnant women? Plenty of doctors are not exactly in agreement with your so called "vast majority of doctors." Why is it so many at the CDC and NIH were refusing the jab not that long ago? In fact up to 50% according to Fauci and the head of the CDC. The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D. What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated — those with a high school education or less. Meanwhile, hesitancy held constant in the most educated group; by May, those with Ph.Ds were the most hesitant group. https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/ Edited August 17, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Vaccines aren't approved for anybody and kids can't even get them. If kids can't get them, why the hell would anyone think it's ok to give it to an unborn child? Because that's what it would be doing for a pregnant woman to get the shot. Fucking morons everywhere on this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, irv said: You realize, don't you, (not likely) that any doctor/nurse/medical professional that doesn't toe the line is being silenced and shunned? https://www.modernhealthcare.com/labor/why-are-some-healthcare-workers-refusing-covid-vaccines https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210628/huge-number-of-hospital-workers https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-wont-some-health-care-workers-get-vaccinated-2021021721967 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-health-care-worker-reluctance/ https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/healthcare-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-access Of course I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Who's implying that? Fact is we aren't giving it to young kids so why would we give it to pregnant women? Plenty of doctors are not exactly in agreement with your so called "vast majority of doctors." Why is it so many at the CDC and NIH were refusing the jab not that long ago? In fact up to 50% according to Fauci and the head of the CDC. The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D. What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated — those with a high school education or less. Meanwhile, hesitancy held constant in the most educated group; by May, those with Ph.Ds were the most hesitant group. https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/ Feels to me you were implying there wasn’t enough data on pregnant women. Sorry, I probably just misunderstood you again - I mean, certainly not force, but then again, no one is being forced. “There simply was not enough pregnant women (if any) in the original trials to justify forcing the jab on them.” It is interesting on PHDs if true, but the study was based on a voluntary Facebook questionnaire. Strange jump from masters to PhD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 17, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: Feels to me you were implying there wasn’t enough data on pregnant women. Sorry, I probably just misunderstood you again - I mean, certainly not force, but then again, no one is being forced. “There simply was not enough pregnant women (if any) in the original trials to justify forcing the jab on them.” It is interesting on PHDs if true, but the study was based on a voluntary Facebook questionnaire. Strange jump from masters to PhD. There is somewhat limited data on pregnant women (CDC admits this) however I made no connection to certain side effects. What % of the original trials do you think were pregnant women? Do you think they could get EUA based off that low of number? I found the results on masters degrees interesting as well but it doesn't mean the data is invalid. Edited August 17, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Has the video been corroborated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, mnstang said: Vaccines aren't approved for anybody and kids can't even get them. If kids can't get them, why the hell would anyone think it's ok to give it to an unborn child? Because that's what it would be doing for a pregnant woman to get the shot. Fucking morons everywhere on this Hey doc, all women are recommended to get the Tdap vaccine during pregnancy yet kids aren’t until they’re 7. Isn’t that giving it to the unborn child? ”fucking morons everywhere on this” is exactly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, akvanden said: Hey doc, all women are recommended to get the Tdap vaccine during pregnancy yet kids aren’t until they’re 7. Isn’t that giving it to the unborn child? ”fucking morons everywhere on this” is exactly right. I don't ever know what you're trying to get at. Why don't you be a little more direct with what you're trying to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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