Anler Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 There's been a lot of talk recently about how Americans can help the people of Cuba who are suffering under the Castro regime. What you may not know is that there are many Americans who are ready, willing and able to help Cubans, but the US government has been stopping them for 25 years. There's been a lot of talk about ending the Cuba embargo, but that is nowhere near as important, or as easy, as simply revoking Proclamation 6867. In 1996, Bill Clinton made Proclamation 6867, which is an executive order that declares a national emergency and bans private US boats from entering Cuban waters, and authorizes the US government to detain anyone who they suspect of intending to do so, and to seize their vessel and property. The justification Proclamation 6867 was that was that Americans entering Cuban waters risked harm by Castro, and that their entry risked inflaming tensions between the US and Cuban governments. As a result, Americans who want to directly provide food, medicine and support to Cubans risk federal arrest and prosecution, either when they attempt to enter or when they return. The Cuban people are facing increasingly severe shortages of every single thing they need. They are also being increasingly brutalized by the Castro regime (yes I know Diaz-Canel is president, Raul still runs the show). They need help. Many Americans are ready to provide that help. Let them. Americans are well aware of the risks. US-Cuban government relations are well past inflamed. People are dying, and there is no justification to continue denying them help from Americans who want to help them. Bush, Obama and Trump modified and continued 6867 with 7757, 9398 and 9699. Biden can simply revoke them all. Again, because this is an executive order, there is no need for any legislation or anything else. Biden can just revoke it. With the stroke of a pen, Biden can let Americans bring direct aid to their friends, family and loved ones in Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 WOuld Biden Admin help out right leaning immigrants? Doesn't appear so.....so far. Won't even comment on Cuba being communist, even when directly asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) And the Cuban govt will just seize that aid and sell it or keep it to benefit themselves. Our embargo's do not stop humanitarian aid like food or medicine. Problem is the govt that controls it. No different than any dictatorship. Any financial gain by opening up trade with any type of goods or services with Cuba just goes into the pockets of the Cuban communist regime. Its not just as simple as providing help. Look at Somalia in the early 90's. Edited July 15, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Highmark said: And the Cuban govt will just seize that aid and sell it or keep it to benefit themselves. Our embargo's do not stop humanitarian aid like food or medicine. Problem is the govt that controls it. No different than any dictatorship. Any financial gain by opening up trade with any type of goods or services with Cuba just goes into the pockets of the Cuban communist regime. Its not just as simple as providing help. Look at Somalia in the early 90's. The ones we put on Venezuela do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Anler said: The ones we put on Venezuela do. You can help thru charities however the same thing happens there. Govt controls who gets what. https://help.rescue.org/donate/help-venezuelans-now Not sure you are correct on aid coming from the US govt either. https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-venezuela/ U.S. Humanitarian Assistance in Response to the Venezuela Regional Crisis The United States is providing humanitarian assistance to help people within Venezuela, as well as Venezuelan migrants and refugees and their host communities across the region, who are struggling to access sufficient food, water, healthcare, and other critical goods and services. Since FY 2017, the United States has provided more than $1.4 billion in humanitarian assistance along with $272 million in economic, development, and health assistance to support the response to the crisis inside Venezuela and throughout the region. The United States is the single largest donor of humanitarian aid to people affected by this crisis and supports 17 countries hosting Venezuelan migrants and refugees. U.S. humanitarian assistance helps to meet critical life-saving needs, including for food and nutrition; water, sanitation, and hygiene; healthcare; protection; and other goods and services. Our development assistance is helping countries throughout Latin America and the Caribbean meet longer term needs, such as education deficits, caused by the man-made regional crisis. Edited July 15, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Highmark said: You can help thru charities however the same thing happens there. Govt controls who gets what. https://help.rescue.org/donate/help-venezuelans-now Not sure you are correct on aid coming from the US govt either. https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-venezuela/ U.S. Humanitarian Assistance in Response to the Venezuela Regional Crisis The United States is providing humanitarian assistance to help people within Venezuela, as well as Venezuelan migrants and refugees and their host communities across the region, who are struggling to access sufficient food, water, healthcare, and other critical goods and services. Since FY 2017, the United States has provided more than $1.4 billion in humanitarian assistance along with $272 million in economic, development, and health assistance to support the response to the crisis inside Venezuela and throughout the region. The United States is the single largest donor of humanitarian aid to people affected by this crisis and supports 17 countries hosting Venezuelan migrants and refugees. U.S. humanitarian assistance helps to meet critical life-saving needs, including for food and nutrition; water, sanitation, and hygiene; healthcare; protection; and other goods and services. Our development assistance is helping countries throughout Latin America and the Caribbean meet longer term needs, such as education deficits, caused by the man-made regional crisis. There has been plenty of pieces on how US sanctions were responsible for over 40,000 deaths in Venezuela due to lack of medicines. US operatives have also been caught multiple times trying to engage in coups and overthrow the president of Venezuela so the US state department doesnt have a lot of credibility LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Anler said: There has been plenty of pieces on how US sanctions were responsible for over 40,000 deaths in Venezuela due to lack of medicines. US operatives have also been caught multiple times trying to engage in coups and overthrow the president of Venezuela so the US state department doesnt have a lot of credibility LOL Links? Oh I agree that the US DoS has little credibility but that don't replace common sense when it comes to dictatorships of this nature. I don't 100% agree with sanctions against countries like Cuba and Venezuela but I'm realistic on who the removal of sanctions or aid will most directly benefit. The regimes. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Links? Oh I agree that the US DoS has little credibility but that don't replace common sense when it comes to dictatorships of this nature. I don't 100% agree with sanctions against countries like Cuba and Venezuela but I'm realistic on who the removal of sanctions or aid will most directly benefit. The regimes. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1249G0&p=US+sanctions+responsible+for+40%2C000+deaths+in+venezuela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 When Cubans in the US send cash to their families the Cuban government takes a big share of that transfers. And this….. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-sets-limits-on-money-cuban-americans-can-send-to-family-in-cuba/2019/09/06/e1d2fa04-d0b3-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mainecat said: When Cubans in the US send cash to their families the Cuban government takes a big share of that transfers. And this….. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-sets-limits-on-money-cuban-americans-can-send-to-family-in-cuba/2019/09/06/e1d2fa04-d0b3-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html Using leftist logic since they didn’t earn that money the government is entitled to a big chunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Anler said: https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1249G0&p=US+sanctions+responsible+for+40%2C000+deaths+in+venezuela Well considering the sources one must take that for what it is. 28 minutes ago, Mainecat said: When Cubans in the US send cash to their families the Cuban government takes a big share of that transfers. And this….. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-sets-limits-on-money-cuban-americans-can-send-to-family-in-cuba/2019/09/06/e1d2fa04-d0b3-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html Yeah Communism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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