Elon Musk: “I’m surprised CNN still exists”

[spin_dry]

1 hour ago, Rigid1 said:

Shocker, Spin lied. A CPAP can be converted or used as a ventilator according to major Universities and the FDA..

 

https://engineering.berkeley.edu/news/2020/04/turning-sleep-apnea-machines-into-ventilators/

 

https://www.ptcommunity.com/wire/auburn-university-design-adapts-cpap-machines-emergency-ventilators

 

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-authorizes-cpap-machines-more-as-emergency-ventilator-alternatives

Oops

O’Connell points out that these machines are not meant for the most serious cases of COVID-19, where patients are in need of higher-pressure air from medical grade ventilators.

“Our solution could be used for those patients who need support for mild to moderate respiratory symptoms, saving the ventilators for ICU patients who are experiencing acute respiratory distress,” said O’Connell.

[frenchy]

 

Elon Musk attacks CNN over his ventilator fiasco. Why won’t Gov. Gavin Newsom clarify?

BY THE SACRAMENTO BEE EDITORIAL BOARD

APRIL 16, 2020 11:19 AM, UPDATED APRIL 16, 2020 09:39

 

Tesla founder Elon Musk took to Twitter early Thursday morning to attack CNN for repeating a Sacramento Bee Editorial Board report that he never delivered the ventilators he promised to California.

“@GavinNewsom, please fix this misunderstanding,” tweeted Musk to his 33 million followers. He also jabbed at CNN with insults, behaving a lot like another famous tweeter who likes to attack the free press. In addition, Musk tweeted a link to a photo that appears to show hospital staffers in South Los Angeles thanking him for a gift of “medical devices.” But there’s no proof that those devices are the “ventilators” in question.

To recap: Last month, Gov. Newsom announced Musk’s alleged plans to donate over 1,000 ventilators to California. At the time, California was desperately searching for such devices. “Invasive” ventilators are often necessary to save the lives of the most critical COVID-19 patients. On March 23, Gov. Newsom announced that the ventilators had arrived in Los Angeles, a detail faithfully reported by the news media.

But – three weeks later – the governor’s office said that wasn’t true. A Newsom spokesman said Musk hadn’t actually delivered any ventilators as far as anyone in the governor’s office knew. The spokesman stressed that the state had never included Musk’s donation in California’s official ventilator tally. Instead, he said, Musk was supposed to deliver the ventilators directly to hospitals.
 

Of course, Newsom didn’t say any of that when he announced Musk’s supposed ventilator gift. Instead, he made it sound like he got on the horn with Musk and hooked up 1,255 free ventilators. At the time, Newsom called Musk’s actions “heroic.”

Two days after The Bee Editorial Board reported on Musk’s ventilator fiasco – and one day after the Associated Press also reported it – Musk protested on Twitter and demanded a positive response from the governor. But if Musk really wanted to clear the air, why didn’t his press office respond to questions from The Bee or the AP? The best time to clear up a “misunderstanding” is before it gets published, but Musk’s office made zero effort.

Musk’s office also did not respond to reporters from the venerable Financial Times newspaper in London. On April 2, the FT reported that Musk had apparently purchased and shipped the wrong type of medical device to hospitals in New York. Musk, the FT said, had actually purchased Bilevel Positive Airway Pressure (BPAP) machines, which he plastered with Tesla stickers and shipped to New York. The paper identified the devices as a discontinued BPAP model known as the ResMed S9 Elite. Even worse, according to the FT: “The American Society of Anesthesiologists on Feb. 23 issued guidance warning that CPAP and BPAP machines ‘may increase the risk of infectious transmission.’”

A real ventilator can cost up to $50,000, according to the FT. The machines Musk supplied cost around $800. On April 7, the FT wrote that Musk now appears to have delivered at least one “invasive” ventilator to New York.

In the blurry photo Musk shared of South LA hospital staffers thanking him for the “medical devices,” the ResMed logo seems apparent on the Tesla-stamped boxes. Are these the same BPAP machines he sent to New York, and which are not the actual “ventilators” needed to help critical COVID-19 patients? A press release from the Martin Luther King, Jr. Community Hospital in LA indicates that the devices are more like BPAP machines, not ventilators.

If so, it would appear that the only “misunderstanding” here is that Elon Musk doesn’t know the difference between a real ventilator and a BPAP machine – and that Gov. Newsom thought Musk’s promise meant more than it did.

During his daily press conference on Thursday, Newsom was asked about Musk’s tweet demanding clarity. The governor performed a cowardly dodge, refusing to say whether the state had received “ventilators.” Instead, he thanked Musk for providing “resources” – after days of telling reporters the state had not received any. So, were they real ventilators or BPAP machines?

Neither Tesla nor Gov. Newsom’s office responded to requests for clarification.

Editor’s note: This editorial has been updated to reflect Gov. Newsom’s comments at his daily press conference.

 

 

 

[frenchy]

poor butthurt fake news club. Assign blame without even knowing the details or reading the fucking article in question. Looks like the AP, Financial Times, and Sac Bee all see things the exact same as CNN and Musk is scrambling to save face. Keep getting gut hooked by your emotions, boys. 

[spin_dry]

3 minutes ago, frenchy said:

 

Elon Musk attacks CNN over his ventilator fiasco. Why won’t Gov. Gavin Newsom clarify?

BY THE SACRAMENTO BEE EDITORIAL BOARD

APRIL 16, 2020 11:19 AM, UPDATED APRIL 16, 2020 09:39

 

Tesla founder Elon Musk took to Twitter early Thursday morning to attack CNN for repeating a Sacramento Bee Editorial Board report that he never delivered the ventilators he promised to California.

“@GavinNewsom, please fix this misunderstanding,” tweeted Musk to his 33 million followers. He also jabbed at CNN with insults, behaving a lot like another famous tweeter who likes to attack the free press. In addition, Musk tweeted a link to a photo that appears to show hospital staffers in South Los Angeles thanking him for a gift of “medical devices.” But there’s no proof that those devices are the “ventilators” in question.

To recap: Last month, Gov. Newsom announced Musk’s alleged plans to donate over 1,000 ventilators to California. At the time, California was desperately searching for such devices. “Invasive” ventilators are often necessary to save the lives of the most critical COVID-19 patients. On March 23, Gov. Newsom announced that the ventilators had arrived in Los Angeles, a detail faithfully reported by the news media.

But – three weeks later – the governor’s office said that wasn’t true. A Newsom spokesman said Musk hadn’t actually delivered any ventilators as far as anyone in the governor’s office knew. The spokesman stressed that the state had never included Musk’s donation in California’s official ventilator tally. Instead, he said, Musk was supposed to deliver the ventilators directly to hospitals.
 

Of course, Newsom didn’t say any of that when he announced Musk’s supposed ventilator gift. Instead, he made it sound like he got on the horn with Musk and hooked up 1,255 free ventilators. At the time, Newsom called Musk’s actions “heroic.”

Two days after The Bee Editorial Board reported on Musk’s ventilator fiasco – and one day after the Associated Press also reported it – Musk protested on Twitter and demanded a positive response from the governor. But if Musk really wanted to clear the air, why didn’t his press office respond to questions from The Bee or the AP? The best time to clear up a “misunderstanding” is before it gets published, but Musk’s office made zero effort.

Musk’s office also did not respond to reporters from the venerable Financial Times newspaper in London. On April 2, the FT reported that Musk had apparently purchased and shipped the wrong type of medical device to hospitals in New York. Musk, the FT said, had actually purchased Bilevel Positive Airway Pressure (BPAP) machines, which he plastered with Tesla stickers and shipped to New York. The paper identified the devices as a discontinued BPAP model known as the ResMed S9 Elite. Even worse, according to the FT: “The American Society of Anesthesiologists on Feb. 23 issued guidance warning that CPAP and BPAP machines ‘may increase the risk of infectious transmission.’”

A real ventilator can cost up to $50,000, according to the FT. The machines Musk supplied cost around $800. On April 7, the FT wrote that Musk now appears to have delivered at least one “invasive” ventilator to New York.

In the blurry photo Musk shared of South LA hospital staffers thanking him for the “medical devices,” the ResMed logo seems apparent on the Tesla-stamped boxes. Are these the same BPAP machines he sent to New York, and which are not the actual “ventilators” needed to help critical COVID-19 patients? A press release from the Martin Luther King, Jr. Community Hospital in LA indicates that the devices are more like BPAP machines, not ventilators.

If so, it would appear that the only “misunderstanding” here is that Elon Musk doesn’t know the difference between a real ventilator and a BPAP machine – and that Gov. Newsom thought Musk’s promise meant more than it did.

During his daily press conference on Thursday, Newsom was asked about Musk’s tweet demanding clarity. The governor performed a cowardly dodge, refusing to say whether the state had received “ventilators.” Instead, he thanked Musk for providing “resources” – after days of telling reporters the state had not received any. So, were they real ventilators or BPAP machines?

Neither Tesla nor Gov. Newsom’s office responded to requests for clarification.

Editor’s note: This editorial has been updated to reflect Gov. Newsom’s comments at his daily press conference.

 

 

 

Elon meant well. 

[Rod]

3 minutes ago, frenchy said:

poor butthurt fake news club. Assign blame without even knowing the details or reading the fucking article in question. Looks like the AP, Financial Times, and Sac Bee all see things the exact same as CNN and Musk is scrambling to save face. Keep getting gut hooked by your emotions, boys. 

You know they just pass the same fake news through the echo chamber right 

are you literally retarded?  

[spin_dry]

5 minutes ago, frenchy said:

poor butthurt fake news club. Assign blame without even knowing the details or reading the fucking article in question. Looks like the AP, Financial Times, and Sac Bee all see things the exact same as CNN and Musk is scrambling to save face. Keep getting gut hooked by your emotions, boys. 

I’ve never seen so much dribbling vaginas as this morning.  

[frenchy]

Just now, spin_dry said:

I’ve never seen so much dribbling vaginas as this morning.  

I notice Tom had enough self respect to slink away without commenting....

[Momorider]

2 minutes ago, ACE said:

You know they just pass the same fake news through the echo chamber right 

are you literally retarded?  

mostly the midget shitforbrains is a retard 

[Rigid1]

3 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Oops

O’Connell points out that these machines are not meant for the most serious cases of COVID-19, where patients are in need of higher-pressure air from medical grade ventilators.

“Our solution could be used for those patients who need support for mild to moderate respiratory symptoms, saving the ventilators for ICU patients who are experiencing acute respiratory distress,” said O’Connell.

There's no oops, retard,..plenty of people are using them with moderate symptoms which leaves ventilators for extreme cases that are needed,.. I mean fuck did you have a cup full of stupid this morning..

[AKIQPilot]

1 minute ago, frenchy said:

I notice Tom had enough self respect to slink away without commenting....

I commented already. Musk did what he claimed he would do. Nothing more or less. 

[Rigid1]

2 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

I’ve never seen so much dribbling vaginas as this morning.  

Spent a lot of time in front of the mirror this morning did ya??

[frenchy]

Just now, AKIQPilot said:

I commented already. Musk did what he claimed he would do. Nothing more or less. 

wrong. 

[Rod]

1 minute ago, frenchy said:

I notice Tom had enough self respect to slink away without commenting....

You can only debunk your fake news so many times before a guy gives up because you’re literally retarded 

[Rod]

Just now, AKIQPilot said:

I commented already. Musk did what he claimed he would do. Nothing more or less. 

And CNN made sensationalist fake news over it 

[Rod]

1 minute ago, Rigid1 said:

Spent a lot of time in front of the mirror this morning did ya??

 

[spin_dry]

1 minute ago, Rigid1 said:

There's no oops, retard,..plenty of people are using them with moderate symptoms which leaves ventilators for extreme cases that are needed,.. I mean fuck did you have a cup full of stupid this morning..

It’s a total oops. Cpap machines that have been highly modified stop snoring and make mild cases of covid 19 comfortable. Ventilators save lives. Huge difference. 

[AKIQPilot]

Just now, spin_dry said:

It’s a total oops. Cpap machines that have been highly modified stop snoring and make mild cases of covid 19 comfortable. Ventilators save lives. Huge difference. 

Over 80% of people who go on invasive vents die anyway. Not the case with people who go on the modified cpap machines. 

[frenchy]

i mean how butthurt do you have to be simply because Trump hates CNN that it makes you incapable of understanding facts and timelines as they are clearly laid out in print by multiple sources? 

The Fake News Church is almost as bad as the Climate Change Church in emotionally fueled butthurt. 

[spin_dry]

2 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

Over 80% of people who go on invasive vents die anyway. Not the case with people who go on the modified cpap machines. 

The others were simply more comfortable. They would’ve lived anyway. And what’s the big deal. These people serve no purpose to society anyway. Just drags on the machine. 

Edited April 19, 2020 by spin_dry

[Rigid1]

Just now, spin_dry said:

It’s a total oops. Cpap machines that have been highly modified stop snoring and make mild cases of covid 19 comfortable. Ventilators save lives. Huge difference. 

Haha, you are like a trump briefing..

Ventilators save lives?? Who was it posting 90% of people on ventilators will die?? Anyone?? Anyone?? Bueller??

 

 

[Rod]

1 minute ago, frenchy said:

i mean how butthurt do you have to be simply because Trump hates CNN that it makes you incapable of understanding facts and timelines as they are clearly laid out in print by multiple sources? 

The Fake News Church is almost as bad as the Climate Change Church in emotionally fueled butthurt. 

This has nothing to do with trump. Interesting that you brought him up though. 

[Rod]

Just now, Rigid1 said:

Haha, you are like a trump briefing..

Ventilators save lives?? Who was it posting 90% of people on ventilators will die?? Anyone?? Anyone?? Bueller??

 

 

Thpin doubling down on his lies  

[AKIQPilot]

Just now, spin_dry said:

The others were simply more comfortable. They would’ve loved anyway. And what’s the big deal. These people serve no purpose to society anyway. Just drags on the machine. 

Cpap therapy has been very effective in fighting covid-19.  

[frenchy]

Just now, ACE said:

This has nothing to do with trump. Interesting that you brought him up though. 

he's why everyone hates CNN as much as they do. He says jump, Trump fun boys say how hi. On both sides of the border. 

[spin_dry]

Just now, Rigid1 said:

Haha, you are like a trump briefing..

Ventilators save lives?? Who was it posting 90% of people on ventilators will die?? Anyone?? Anyone?? Bueller??

 

 

Highly modified Cpap machines made the stay in the hospital for people that would’ve lived anyway. Nothing wrong with that.