f7ben Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, GreenStreak said: That's right and they aren't that complex either fucking cake to work on Easier to work on than a chaincase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStreak Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: Easier to work on than a chaincase Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, GreenStreak said: That's right and they aren't that complex either fucking cake to work on the 08 /09 are deff a bigger pita to take apart and put back together than the 04 to 07 and 08 to 10 . the best were deff 04 to 07 . the 08 to 10 were good after new bearing . I yanked the rev one out of my m1000 after it blew up with 600mi on it put in a bdx lite and converted ecu by swapping around 2 wires and helix to motor reverse. best part about the bdx unit was the dip stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: the 08 /09 are deff a bigger pita to take apart and put back together than the 04 to 07 and 08 to 10 . the best were deff 04 to 07 . the 08 to 10 were good after new bearing . I yanked the rev one out of my m1000 after it blew up with 600mi on it put in a bdx lite and converted ecu by swapping around 2 wires and helix to motor reverse. best part about the bdx unit was the dip stick The z1t get the mechanical reverse in all years. They seem to hold up better in the 09+ years though for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: The z1t get the mechanical reverse in all years. They seem to hold up better in the 09+ years though for some reason think they still were using in the barny fan till just last yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, Ez ryder said: think they still were using in the barny fan till just last yr No mechanical reverse though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Ez ryder said: only fucked up thing with that cat is the over complex reverse Dimond drive rest is pretty solid. and even the rev dimond drive is decent if maintained I have a barney with over 60k kms on the clock. DD has original bearings. Flawless rock solid design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: I have a barney with over 60k kms on the clock. DD has original bearings. Flawless rock solid design. The 07-08 2 strokes ate that brass bushing in the planetary up all the time. The 4 strikes didn’t seem to do it for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Edited March 2, 2020 by ManOnManOral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: The 07-08 2 strokes ate that brass bushing in the planetary up all the time. The 4 strikes didn’t seem to do it for some reason I suspect poor maintenance. I use full syn atf as called for by those that engineered it and change fluid every 2000kms, remove and break open to clean and inspect each year. I think this has enabled it to remain all original and keep going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, ManOnManOral said: I suspect poor maintenance. I use full sun at as called for by those that engineered it and change fluid every 2000kms, remove and break open to clean and inspect each year. I think this has enabled it to remain all original and keep going. I’ve seen tons of them fail in m sleds and crossfires. Never seen one fail in a 4 stroke barney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I’ve seen tons of them fail in m sleds and crossfires. Never seen one fail in a 4 stroke barney The ms and crossfire are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, ManOnManOral said: The ms and crossfire are different. No they aren’t....07-08 would swap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, f7ben said: No they aren’t....07-08 would swap Right, I was thinking of the older ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, ManOnManOral said: Right, I was thinking of the older ones. There have been quite a few versions and different case patterns since 04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: There have been quite a few versions and different case patterns since 04 One thing for sure, the dd in the 2010 z1 is solid, but it may be a belt eaterbut the 11200 may puke oil, or both could be rock solid. I may get the same sled u have now, just saw one for sale real cheap. Those Barneys sell for next to nothing. It would be fun lake sled just tune it up to 400hp and run till she blows. Those engines can also be found cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: One thing for sure, the dd in the 2010 z1 is solid, but it may be a belt eaterbut the 11200 may puke oil, or both could be rock solid. I may get the same sled u have now, just saw one for sale real cheap. Those Barneys sell for next to nothing. It would be fun lake sled just tune it up to 400hp and run till she blows. Those engines can also be found cheap. 400hp takes some doing. 300 is easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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