spin_dry Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Suddenly trump is concerned about farmers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Suddenly trump is concerned about farmers. No he just wants polluted water! Ever use your head for more than a wig mount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, washedupmxer said: But wernt a huge amount of farmers hurt be these rules? Especially when it comes to small streams and seasonal small streams? Can't states laws and rules handle it? Of course they did, because the idea of stewardship has left the farming community. Now it's plant every square inch of soil, waterways, shelter belts, ect. be damned. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Of course they did, because the idea of stewardship has left the farming community. Now it's plant every square inch of soil, waterways, shelter belts, ect. be damned. Neal I'd blame trump for lack of ethics in farming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, racer254 said: No one agitated by this article cares to understand what is really going on with the new WOTUS rules. They are just triggered by an article with no real factual information. That is why you have NO ONE that says it's "bad" can summarize it. I responded, apparently you don't care to be engaged and are just using this as a TBJ. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 24, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Of course they did, because the idea of stewardship has left the farming community. Now it's plant every square inch of soil, waterways, shelter belts, ect. be damned. Neal Good post and apparently most here have forgotten what happened when industry was left to their own devices concerning the environment ...It’s why the EPA was created in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: I'd blame trump for lack of ethics in farming I'd blame Trump for removing environmental protections that we should be supporting. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Of course they did, because the idea of stewardship has left the farming community. Now it's plant every square inch of soil, waterways, shelter belts, ect. be damned. Neal LOL. So they don't have to follow guidelines and laws? BTW, every big farmer I know at one time was a little farmer. Edited January 24, 2020 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, racer254 said: LOL. So they don't have to follow guidelines? It's not an all or none switch that was flipped. You could understand better if you read the article... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I'd blame Trump for removing environmental protections that we should be supporting. Neal Even though some of them don't make much sense? Note- it scares me as well and I want clean water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It's not an all or none switch that was flipped. You could understand better if you read the article... Neal The article wants you to believe that it was all or none and many here seem to think that. That's why I wanted someone on here who was for the 2015 WOTUS rules to summarize. You were the only one that even wanted to have a conversation about it. I commend you for that. Edited January 24, 2020 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: LOL. So they don't have to follow guidelines and laws? BTW, every big farmer I know at one time was a little farmer. I don't know but a minute handful of little farmers. It isn't like it used to be, it's so corporatized Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I don't know but a minute handful of little farmers. It isn't like it used to be, it's so corporatized Neal I agree, unfortunately these regulations are sometimes used as a crutch to stop progress as well. And when a ditch that held water 20 years ago is considered a waterway, it's bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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