frenchy Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: yes because US is the #1 user of medicines and the place were there is no control over what you can charge is meaningless to drug companies projections. SMH There is zero empirical evidence that shows that the US market 'subsidizes' the rest of the world's UHC programs. In fact it's an utterly preposterous, and highly arrogant claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, frenchy said: There is zero empirical evidence that shows that the US market 'subsidizes' the rest of the world's UHC programs. In fact it's an utterly preposterous, and highly arrogant claim. Except we pay a fuck ton more for the same health care goods and services enabling advancement and existence of overall infrastructure. You'd have to be a fucking retard to deny it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Just now, f7ben said: Except we pay a fuck ton more for the same health care goods and services enabling advancement and existence of overall infrastructure. You'd have to be a fucking retard to deny it you're free to provide empirical evidence that shows the amount budgeted for R&D spending is a direct result of the additional profits earned domestically in the US. Studies have been done that prove the exact opposite though. And just an aside, being on the same side as Rush Limbaugh on a topic is never a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, frenchy said: you're free to provide empirical evidence that shows the amount budgeted for R&D spending is a direct result of the additional profits earned domestically in the US. Studies have been done that prove the exact opposite though. And just an aside, being on the same side as Rush Limbaugh on a topic is never a good thing. That we are the world American mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, frenchy said: you're free to provide empirical evidence that shows the amount budgeted for R&D spending is a direct result of the additional profits earned domestically in the US. Studies have been done that prove the exact opposite though. And just an aside, being on the same side as Rush Limbaugh on a topic is never a good thing. Fuck Rush and fuck Sludgey and fuck you!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I wouldn’t be surprised if a good 1/4 of income tax goes to health care funding in Canada. Its a great system for when you need it. But it’s a system full of extreme waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, snopro31 said: I wouldn’t be surprised if a good 1/4 of income tax goes to health care funding in Canada. Its a great system for when you need it. But it’s a system full of extreme waste. Well it's a fraction of the waste of our convoluted for profit system that pushes people into extreme situations and benefits only the corporations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, f7ben said: Well it's a fraction of the waste of our convoluted for profit system that pushes people into extreme situations and benefits only the corporations The doctors up here fuck the system just like in the states but there is some control. Equipment is fucking stupid in cost. Drugs are cheaper but without coverage it’s still pricey. A two tier system would b the best case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, snopro31 said: The doctors up here fuck the system just like in the states but there is some control. Equipment is fucking stupid in cost. Drugs are cheaper but without coverage it’s still pricey. A two tier system would b the best case. We essentially have a two tier system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snopro31 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: We essentially have a two tier system. Huh? I can't go and plunk down a envelope of cash to cut the line or get treatment quicker in Canada for surgeries etc on a norm. Some provinces let you pay for an MRI then it allows that business to do a person waiting on the provincial system in their clinic for free. Its awesome. I'd be perfectly fine with a fee charged for certain visits to hospitals. Its not sustainable to keep running it like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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