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A high-powered group of external advisers is calling for a dramatic increase in Canada's immigration levels, but Immigration Minister John McCallum says that might be too ambitious.

McCallum said Wednesday he's read the report by the Advisory Council on Economic Growth that calls for a 50-per-cent increase in targets to 450,000 people a year.

The measure would target skilled, entrepreneurial newcomers in an attempt to stimulate economic growth.

The 14-member panel, chaired by Dominic Barton of the firm McKinsey and Co., is to deliver a set of recommendations to Finance Minister Bill Morneau on Thursday.

McCallum said meeting the target suggested by Barton's group would be costly and might not find broad national support.

"The figure he gives is a huge figure," McCallum said. "But this is not a universal view across the country."

Discussions are continuing and the government will announce immigration targets for 2017 next month, McCallum added.

McCallum's cabinet colleague, Economic Development Minister Navdeep Bains, told The Canadian Press on Wednesday that he's "worked very closely" with Barton's panel, and favours increased immigration levels. But he stopped short of endorsing the target in Barton's report.

"Clearly he's demonstrating an opportunity for Canada," Bains said. "We value our diversity, we value our multicultural society and we recognize immigration is an opportunity to create jobs."

The need for skilled labour

Bains said the government would need to sell the idea of higher immigration levels to the public.

"We, as a government, need to focus on communicating the benefits of growing the economy and part of that growth is investing in people and part of that equation is immigration."

Bains said bringing in more skilled workers is part of the government's broader agenda that includes investing in research and development, creating jobs and helping companies grow.

A survey released by Canadian Manufactures and Exporters said the most pressing challenge facing its member companies is "attracting or retaining skilled labour."

The response came from a survey and roundtable discussions with 1,300 member companies.

Matthew Wilson, the organization's senior vice president, said manufacturers have traditionally looked beyond Canada's border to find skilled workers.

"If we can expand that, that's good," he said in an interview.

Slower growth ahead

But the government needs to do more to make sure the immigrants they allow into Canada actually have skills that are needed, Wilson added.

"Just bringing in more immigrants isn't going to solve the skills-gap problem if they don't have the skills Canadian companies need."

The continuing need to address the country's sluggish economy was underscored Wednesday as the Bank of Canada downgraded its growth prediction.

The bank's latest outlook projected a real GDP expansion of 1.1 per cent this year, down from its earlier 1.3 per cent forecast.

Governor Stephen Poloz listed immigration as "one of the ingredients" for helping to reverse declining growth.

I can't believe McCallum had those thoughts. He must be drying out. Has anyone ever explained how "diversity" has helped Canada? I don't ever remember it being mentioned during Oshawa's Fiesta Week during its heydey.

Some talk on the CBC this morning & the reporter said most immigrants settle in the big cities, which doesn't help declining populations in rural & small town Canada. The reason those populations are declining is that there are no jobs there. Why would it make sense to plunk immigrants down in areas of unemployment? In Apsley, Asians already own the motel/restaurant and the "general store". I can't think of any other businesses they'd be interested in.  

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53 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

GAS prices down again - keep it going $1.66

 

 

Thanks Doug 

41 minutes ago, toslow said:

Thanks Doug 

nothing to do with him or Trudy 

 

so much for that killer tax you keep mentioning

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5 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

nothing to do with him or Trudy 

 

so much for that killer tax you keep mentioning

Who installed the carbon tax?

9 minutes ago, toslow said:

Who installed the carbon tax?

Actually Doug Ford did when he canceled a well working Cap and Trade - people ate his BS up but only thing that happened is we are now one 5 provinces controlled by the direct carbon tax

 

The Provinces that this doesn't affect don't care :dunno: 

 

Having said that we wouldn't get the climate rebate if we continued with Cap and Trade, would just had the 11 cents off the price of gasoline.

 

Go Doug

Just now, 1trailmaker said:

Actually Doug Ford did when he canceled a well working Cap and Trade - people ate his BS up but only thing that happened is we are now one 5 provinces controlled by the direct carbon tax

 

The Provinces that this doesn't affect don't care :dunno: 

 

Having said that we wouldn't get the climate rebate if we continued with Cap and Trade, would just had the 11 cents off the price of gasoline.

 

Go Doug

There you go again, speaking with out educating yourself

1 hour ago, toslow said:

There you go again, speaking with out educating yourself

2015 cap and trade started, doug ended it and instead took Trudeau's carbon tax directly....  

 

This is historical fact - how do you see it? 

 

IF WE HAD CAP AND TRADE WOULD TRUDEAU'S CARBON TAX MATTER OR COME INTO PLAY?  ANSWER IS NO

Who started the cap and trade idiot 

when you figure it out then you’re going to see why ford scrap it 

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What was that about Harper again.

 

 

1 hour ago, toslow said:

Holy shit, look how rich this country was in the Harper yr

https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp

Real GDP vs GDP look it up for your next post but since you posted this,

 

He did enjoy some good high oil prices no doubt - making money is important oil peeked at 140 a barrel USD.

paying 1.40 for a litre was cool too, as long as Alberta makes money and has over paid jobs - enter 2014 and Harper's sole economic recession 

Your chart doesn't lie 

Thanks for posting it most have no idea how bad it was going to get, thankfully it only took a little while to correct (covid stopped the entire growth)

 

 

1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said:

Real GDP vs GDP look it up for your next post but since you posted this,

 

He did enjoy some good high oil prices no doubt - making money is important oil peeked at 140 a barrel USD.

paying 1.40 for a litre was cool too, as long as Alberta makes money and has over paid jobs - enter 2014 and Harper's sole economic recession 

Your chart doesn't lie 

Thanks for posting it most have no idea how bad it was going to get, thankfully it only took a little while to correct (covid stopped the entire growth)

 

 

And again you prove yourself more oneway than the people here. Where is the price of the barrel today and the people working the patch not making near enough to survive because of inflation.

I’ll circle around to this again, please educate yourself before you post. 

 

Just now, toslow said:

And again you prove yourself more oneway than the people here. Where is the price of the barrel today and the people working the patch not making near enough to survive because of inflation.

I’ll circle around to this again, please educate yourself before you post. 

 

RGDP vs GDP you had no idea

 

year 2015 was Harper as PM not JT - he crashed everything your chart proves it 

fucking market was under 11k when Harper finished - 

OIL is under 100$ a barrel, it is a world pricing and has nothing to do with a PM....   Canada enjoy's expensive OIL becaues Alberta can only make money that way

 

 

I like when people like you and AC post stuff that proves your point wrong and do it often :lol: 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

RGDP vs GDP you had no idea

 

year 2015 was Harper as PM not JT - he crashed everything your chart proves it 

fucking market was under 11k when Harper finished - 

OIL is under 100$ a barrel, it is a world pricing and has nothing to do with a PM....   Canada enjoy's expensive OIL becaues Alberta can only make money that way

 

 

I like when people like you and AC post stuff that proves your point wrong and do it often :lol: 

 

 

 

I like when i post and you react with no idea how economics works

damn dude get yourself some education and not so blinded by seeing one thing and drawing yourself a conclusion 

1 hour ago, toslow said:

I like when i post and you react with no idea how economics works

damn dude get yourself some education and not so blinded by seeing one thing and drawing yourself a conclusion 

2015 post your results again I would love to be corrected - I will wait 

6 minutes ago, toslow said:

Who took office in 2015 and tanked our economy right away? Bet you can’t guess 

Harper :dunno:  

Justin became Prime Minister Nov 4th 2015 - Cabinet wasn't for another Month.

Unemployment 7.9%

TSX 11992

 

:dunno:   ONEWAYs just don't get it

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4 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Harper :dunno:  

Justin became Prime Minister Nov 4th 2015 - Cabinet wasn't for another Month.

Unemployment 7.9%

TSX 11992

 

:dunno:   ONEWAYs just don't get it

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3227146
 

and we all know what happened after this 

Just now, toslow said:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3227146
 

and we all know what happened after this 

give it a rest, HARPER TANKED THE ECONOMY by your own posted stats 

He ran 8 deficits in a row than magically 1 month before the election he claims next budget will be a surplus :lol: 

 

the Economy has only gone up ever since JT was elected according to your own chart you posted....  why do you not trust your own posts?

 

I voted for Harper and wasn't happy with his end

36 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

give it a rest, HARPER TANKED THE ECONOMY by your own posted stats 

He ran 8 deficits in a row than magically 1 month before the election he claims next budget will be a surplus :lol: 

 

the Economy has only gone up ever since JT was elected according to your own chart you posted....  why do you not trust your own posts?

 

I voted for Harper and wasn't happy with his end

Well you keep at it, only a fool argues with another fool. I’m out 

Budget day :lol: should be interesting

 

Get ready to open up your wallet and dig deep 

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