racer254 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 mc is such a hack. The most effective lie is one with a kernel of truth, and this example of that maxim is based on the fact that not all incandescent light bulbs are banned. Just the ones Americans buy most. January 1, 2012: Goodbye to standard 100-watt incandescents.1 January 1, 2013: Goodbye to standard 75-watt incandescents. January 1, 2014: Goodbye to standard 60- and 40-watt incandescents. By 2020: Say goodbye to, among others, Halogen incandescents, such as Phillips' EcoVantage. These bulbs often are cited as "proof" there is no light bulb ban because they are incandescents and public will be able to buy them after January 1, 2012. Bulb ban backers rarely volunteer that these bulbs are banned also – just a bit later. In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which contains legislation to make incandescent light bulbs more efficient by setting maximum wattage requirements for all general service Incandescent light bulbs producing 310–2600 lumens of light. Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, plant lights, candelabra lights under 60 watts, outdoor post lights less than 100 watts, nightlights and shatter resistant bulbs. This effectively banned the manufacturing or importing of most incandescent bulbs of that time.[59][60] The timeline for these standards was to start in January 2012. By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which require all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs).[61] The United States Environmental Protection Agency's Energy Star program in March 2008 established rules for labeling lamps that meet a set of standards for efficiency, starting time, life expectancy, color, and consistency of performance. The intent of the program is to reduce consumer concerns about efficient light bulbs due to variable quality of products.[50] Those CFLs with a recent Energy Star certification start in less than one second and do not flicker. Energy Star Light Bulbs for Consumers is a resource for finding and comparing Energy Star qualified lamps. In 2011, Republican House members introduced a Better Use of Light Bulbs Act or BULB Act (H.R. 91), which would have repealed Subtitle B of Title III of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.[62] H.R. 2417 failed to pass in the U.S. House.[63] On 16 December 2011, the U.S. House passed the final 2012 budget legislation, which effectively delayed the implementation until October 2012.[64] In 2014 the spending bill proposed by the House would block[needs update] the energy efficiency standards in the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which would have made incandescent light bulbs obsolete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, racer254 said: mc is such a hack. The most effective lie is one with a kernel of truth, and this example of that maxim is based on the fact that not all incandescent light bulbs are banned. Just the ones Americans buy most. January 1, 2012: Goodbye to standard 100-watt incandescents.1 January 1, 2013: Goodbye to standard 75-watt incandescents. January 1, 2014: Goodbye to standard 60- and 40-watt incandescents. By 2020: Say goodbye to, among others, Halogen incandescents, such as Phillips' EcoVantage. These bulbs often are cited as "proof" there is no light bulb ban because they are incandescents and public will be able to buy them after January 1, 2012. Bulb ban backers rarely volunteer that these bulbs are banned also – just a bit later. In December 2007, the federal government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which contains legislation to make incandescent light bulbs more efficient by setting maximum wattage requirements for all general service Incandescent light bulbs producing 310–2600 lumens of light. Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, plant lights, candelabra lights under 60 watts, outdoor post lights less than 100 watts, nightlights and shatter resistant bulbs. This effectively banned the manufacturing or importing of most incandescent bulbs of that time.[59][60] The timeline for these standards was to start in January 2012. By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which require all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to current CFLs).[61] The United States Environmental Protection Agency's Energy Star program in March 2008 established rules for labeling lamps that meet a set of standards for efficiency, starting time, life expectancy, color, and consistency of performance. The intent of the program is to reduce consumer concerns about efficient light bulbs due to variable quality of products.[50] Those CFLs with a recent Energy Star certification start in less than one second and do not flicker. Energy Star Light Bulbs for Consumers is a resource for finding and comparing Energy Star qualified lamps. In 2011, Republican House members introduced a Better Use of Light Bulbs Act or BULB Act (H.R. 91), which would have repealed Subtitle B of Title III of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.[62] H.R. 2417 failed to pass in the U.S. House.[63] On 16 December 2011, the U.S. House passed the final 2012 budget legislation, which effectively delayed the implementation until October 2012.[64] In 2014 the spending bill proposed by the House would block[needs update] the energy efficiency standards in the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which would have made incandescent light bulbs obsolete I told you idiots that when it happened but you and jtssx were clear Obama was taking our lightbulbs. You just owned yourselves. How many 40 watt bulbs did you hoard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, Mainecat said: I told you idiots that when it happened but you and jtssx were clear Obama was taking our lightbulbs. You just owned yourselves. How many 40 watt bulbs did you hoard? Did they ban them or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Did they ban them or not? Never mind this thread is way over your pay grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Never mind this thread is way over your pay grade You can't answer the question truthfully? Poor mc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 On 10/22/2016 at 1:03 PM, Sleepr2 said: Boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: Never mind this thread is way over your pay grade That is the reply of a loser.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 24, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 3 hours ago, racer254 said: You can't answer the question truthfully? Poor mc. your by far the dumbest member here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Dave said: That is the reply of a loser.... and yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Mainecat said: Never mind this thread is way over your pay grade I'm too much of a liar to answer. We know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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