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Crnr2Crnr

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  1. Not without our content and contributions it isn't. Google collective bargaining.
  2. By 2046 cracker white will be the minority in the USA Good to see most of you are prepared.
  3. That's what I'm holding out for, and why we deserve a dividend reinvestment plan. More shares = mo $
  4. Like this? https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/snw/d/mcgregor-2015-polaris-slingshot/7368088179.html
  5. https://jalopnik.com/u-s-democrats-propose-expanded-ev-tax-credits-to-12-5-1847658183 imo, there shouldn't be tax credits for any EV's as they do as much damage to our roads as an ICE vehicle which pays for the roads via gas tax. Don't have an issue with the EV itself, just the $ & politics of it all.
  6. Did they all use their hand signals? Renting a Polaris or SkiDoo?
  7. Didn't you get the memo... Cash or crypto only
  8. Have you sorted out our shareholder dividend payment system yet.
  9. The lambda lambda must be the one that gives people explosive diarrhea.
  10. https://www.freedomsledder.com/index.php?/forum/15-classifieds/ Huh, never noticed it. Maybe I'm not alone...
  11. Nah fuck it, let's lockdown again and close the state borders except for 'essential business' semi truck traffic.
  12. 'normal' has been a good portion of 2021 Delta variant LOVES normal. Carry on...
  13. No one in their right mind should want the lockdowns again, which imo is why we are seeing the mandates being pushed. IDK what is going to happen next. There's more than one way to skin a grape.
  14. Please post your BMI and a picture of your ORV.
  15. Do we prefer mask and/or vaccine mandates or fucking lockdowns again until they find a 100% guarantee vaccination? I'll take 'some' mandates at this point for $100 Alex, so we don't have to shut the economy down again and pay people not to work. But that's me...
  16. So, should they be in school unvaccinated... but masked to compromise? Our h/s aged daughter and her friends are vaccinated and this week starting to mask at school voluntarily to attempt to help mitigate the spread. Their decision completely, not the parents or the schools. The BMI of the average American keeps rising, which explains the increase in ORV sales. Most of those fat fucks should be walking, jogging or cycling from bar to bar. Check yourself... https://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-risk/tools-to-know-your-risk/bmi-calculator
  17. Were the wraps from Textron? Sounded like Kale and Arctic Insider were selling them.
  18. Look at the parts fiche list for 2022 models (scroll down the right side) and try not to puke. https://www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-parts?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3fXJ8Nb68gIVkIjICh2kxQwpEAAYASABEgIIm_D_BwE shitty link but... 2022 ZR 8000 RR ES 137 GREEN SK EARLY BUILD [S2022ZXHKREBG] 2022 ZR 6000 LTD ES 137 ORANGE SK EARLY BUILD [S2022ZXDKEEBO] 2022 RIOT X 8000 ES 146 (2.6) ATAC RED SK EARLY BUILD [S2022R8HKSEBY] 2022 RIOT 8000 ES 146 (1.6) ATAC RED SK EARLY BUILD [S2022RTHKSEBR] 2022 M 8000 MOUNTAIN CAT ALPHA ONE 154 (3.0) ATAC BLACK SK EARLY BUILD [S2022MCHK5EBL] 2022 M 8000 HARDCORE ALPHA ONE 165 (3.0) GREEN SK EARLY BUILD [S2022MHHKOEBG] 2022 M 8000 HARDCORE ALPHA ONE 154 (3.0) ORANGE SK EARLY BUILD [S2022MHHK3EBO] 2022 M 8000 HARDCORE ALPHA ONE 146 (2.6) GREEN SK EARLY BUILD [S2022MHHK6EBG] 2022 BLAST 4000 ZR GREEN SK EARLY BUILD [S2022JABKTEBG] 2022 BLAST 4000 ZR GREEN SK [S2022JABKTUSG] 2022 BLAST 4000 ZR GREEN INTERNATIONAL SK [S2022JABKTEUG] 2022 BLAST 4000 ZR GREEN [S2022JABSTUSG] 2022 BLAST 4000 ZR BLUE [S2022JABSTUSL] 2022 BLAST 4000 XR BLACK SK EARLY BUILD [S2022JABKOEBB] 2022 BLAST 4000 XR BLACK SK [S2022JABKOUSB] 2022 BLAST 4000 XR BLACK INTERNATIONAL [S2022JABLOEUB] 2022 BLAST 4000 XR BLACK [S2022JABLOUSB] 2022 BLAST 4000 M RED INTERNATIONAL SK [S2022JABK1EUR] 2022 BLAST 4000 M RED INTERNATIONAL [S2022JABA1EUR] 2022 BLAST 4000 M RED [S2022JABA1USR] 2022 BLAST 4000 M ORANGE SK EARLY BUILD [S2022JABK1EBO] 2022 BLAST 4000 M ORANGE SK [S2022JABK1USO] 2022 BLAST 4000 M ORANGE [S2022JABA1USO] 2022 BLAST 4000 LT RED INTERNATIONAL SK [S2022JABKTEUR] 2022 BLAST 4000 LT RED INTERNATIONAL [S2022JABUTEUR] 2022 BLAST 4000 LT RED [S2022JABUTUSR]
  19. Yes, come riding around here. You wouldn't believe it, and thankfully most drive right past us to go 'up north'.
  20. I was searching for a rather specific item today on google, and a FS thread showed up on the list. LOL - it was my own post where I had posted the part #, but it was nice to see FS on the list. maybe there's hope? keywords help, like... Polaris Fire 850 Blowing Up F7 Ski Doo sucks Tucker Hibbert Snocross Maytrx 650 clutching Northstar Rick - etc. Edit: Iron Dog
  21. fuck that, make them read a little. interestingly, there's more on his page https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2021/legislators/assembly/2202 6/3/2021: 2021 Assembly Bill 372 Relating to: passenger restrictions on all-terrain vehicles. 5/27/2021: 2021 Assembly Bill 366 Relating to: snowmobile noise and the operation of snowmobiles, all-terrain vehicles, and utility terrain vehicles near highways. 5/27/2021: 2021 Assembly Bill 365 Relating to: whip lights on all-terrain and utility terrain vehicles. 5/25/2021: 2021 Senate Bill 368 Relating to: passenger restrictions on all-terrain vehicles. 5/25/2021: 2021 Senate Bill 364 Relating to: snowmobile noise and the operation of snowmobiles, all-terrain vehicles, and utility terrain vehicles near highways. 5/14/2021: 2021 Senate Bill 353 Relating to: whip lights on all-terrain and utility terrain vehicles. loud cans and riding off trail is the biggest gripe I hear about, and repeat. snowmobiles in WI are predominantly on private property, and some fail to recognize that or give a shit. Most imo aren't 'locals' and have no skin in the game, unlike those that have to go out and beg for permission. also fwiw, at least loud sleds are running around in the winter when peoples windows are closed and most seasonal northwoods cottages are closed up, it's the fuckwads with loud exhaust on ORV's that made us stop hanging out at one friends cottage in NE Wisconsin and is making them (who live there year round) consider selling their place. Heck, at my buddies place nestled into the boondocks of the Chequamegon in NE Wis. (and I mean literally miles away from a road or trail of any kind) you can hear the things that don't have stock exhaust like they are 100 yards away. yeah, yeah, same can be said of Harleys, also a summertime issue. I agree on a year cutoff to an extent, but the older sleds with triple pipes and the F7 can-tards... those are loud and there's still plenty of them running around. a law is only as good as it's enforcement, and I don't foresee WI setting up checkpoints for db tests like the UP I can't find the original article... but here's a copy/paste job of 'right to repair' from 2010 - not sure if it still applies but if I ever got a ticket for exhaust that isn't stock (like my 720 that requires a D&D pipe but stock muffler) but passed a db test I'd use it. Aftermarket Exhausts - Legal? By Olav Aaen Published: September 17, 2010 Low impact - Today's sleds are well tuned and their exhaust systems meet government sound rules. But what about aftermarket exhausts? Are aftermarket exhausts legal to use on your snowmobile? Many snowmobilers ask this question, and if you listen to law enforcement officers you would think that nothing but an OEM system is allowed. This has been a thorny issue in the snowmobile world for years, as many law enforcement officers do not even take the time to sound test your machine, but just open the hood and give you a citation if you have installed an aftermarket system. Let's make one thing clear, aftermarket systems are legal as long as they meet the industry sound standards. The legal part Limiting a customer to buy only original equipment parts is itself illegal. It is against federal restraint of trade laws put in place to prevent monopolistic trade practices. Imagine if you could only buy an original OEM muffler for your car, and every muffler shop, including Midas, Car-X and the corner shop were forced to close. The parts and installation costs would soar and make car dealership service managers smile from ear to ear. "Restraint of Trade" legislation was put in place precisely to prevent monopolistic pricing by OEMs in all industries and foster competition in the marketplace. In a landmark case, the Illinois Supreme Court reversed a previous lower court's $1 billion ruling against State Farm Insurance. Consumers had filed a class action lawsuit against the insurance firm for using aftermarket body parts in the repair of collision-damaged vehicles. The Supreme Court reversed the lower court's ruling, which was said to have kept the cost of collision repair artificially high and support an OEM monopoly. The same applies to all aftermarket parts, whether they are fenders, mufflers, brakes, fan belts, filters, oil, pistons or any other replacement or performance product. The political part There have been a lot of problems with haphazard noise level enforcement throughout snowmobiling's history, at least since the mid-1960s. Early machines used primitive industrial engines with simple, not very quiet mufflers. As the number of people enjoying our winter sport took off, complaints about noise increased. As more sophisticated manufacturers entered the market, some saw it as an opportunity to gain market share if they could produce quieter snowmobiles and the other players could be "banned." So, a fierce political struggle ensued and as a result some very restrictive sound levels were established for purely political reasons. No study was ever made or published that determined what sound level would actually be acceptable to the public. This condition exists even today. Through a lot of activity by the ISR (International Snowmobile Racing) aftermarket group, the manufacturers, numerous clubs and state associations, the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) and the DNR we now have a more reasonable sound level and a better testing procedure. However, the level set was still done so with political motives and is still probably 50% stricter than it needs to be. The problem with reducing sound levels at the old 50-foot drive-by standard was not the exhaust, but all the mechanical clatter that became primary once the exhaust level was reduced below the 90 dB(A) level. Some super quiet machines were rejected by the public because the mechanical clatter was so annoying that the machines were brought back to the dealers on a weekly basis to "fix the broken parts." As a result, those manufacturers that pushed for super quiet machines actually went out of business, while those who kept the sound level slightly above the "mechanical rattle limit" did well. But sound really became a problem when not only some power happy kids installed racing exhausts and had fun racing down rivers at 2 a.m., but some manufacturers started selling really loud twin- and triple-powered performance sleds to gain an edge in the performance segment. In the past there were some OEMs and some aftermarket players that sold by marketing excessive sound levels. This hit its peak in the late 1990s. Not unjustified, the clubs who were threatened by trail closure, and state DNR officials jumped on the problem. When Wisconsin's DNR tried to do testing they found that the drive-by acceleration test was almost unusable in real world conditions, and they also found that there was a large difference in sound levels out there. Sound studio - Arctic Cat has its own sound chamber to test its engine and exhaust systems to make sure they comply with all regulations.Loud pipes & sound testing Even just 10 years ago some aftermarket pipes were very loud while others were quiet, and some manufacturers' performance sleds were way above the legal limit, while other makers' sleds were quiet. Making a quiet exhaust while maintaining good performance is not mutually exclusive, because 2-stroke exhausts thrive on back pressure. A performance exhaust also can be quiet, and lightweight if it's designed correctly. While all this was going on, ISR's aftermarket division designed a new test procedure that could be used at racetracks to control new race silencer rules. The test had to be stationary, and the engine revved to a certain rpm and measurements taken at a set distance. It was quickly determined that the 20-inch motorcycle test picks up too many variables because of mechanical noises and sharp pressure pulses. This evened out as the distance increased. The first ISR test used a 4-foot distance with the engine running at 3,000 rpm. After awhile the DNR and their SAE consultants also recommended a stationary test, but at a larger distance of 6.2 meters (157.5 inches or 13 ft., 1.5 in.) at 4,000 rpm. The new maximum limit was increased to 88 dB(A) because the test is conducted at a much closer 13 ft. distance. The former drive-by test limit was 78 dB(A) at 50 ft., but the two procedures should be comparable. After many public hearings, the process culminated at a meeting in Wausau, Wis., on Dec. 15, 2003 at the University of Wisconsin's Marathon County campus. Representatives from the manufacturers, ISR aftermarket group, snowmobile clubs, SAE and the DNR were present, and the new DNR-sponsored SAE test was agreed on as a much improved field test. The new and more practical sound test is now in place, and gives all manufacturers an easier way to test and certify their products. The new (SAE J-2567) test also makes it easier for aftermarket manufacturers to develop legal sound systems. Most aftermarket exhausts now meet these new standards, so there should be no reason to get a ticket. The verdict It's definitely not illegal to install an aftermarket exhaust, if it meets the new sound standard. In order to issue an excessive sound citation, an officer must also test the sound level. The sound test is simple, and the equipment necessary costs less than $1,000, so there is no excuse for a law enforcement officer not to have one available. Some areas see ticketing snowmobiles for sound violations as an easy source of income, and they are counting on you just paying the ticket rather than going to court, because many may not be aware of the new sound test procedure. Going to court without a sound reading, would be the same as getting a speeding ticket without a radar reading, and the case will likely be thrown out for lack of evidence. Remember that if an officer just lifts your snowmobile's hood and gives you a ticket for a non-OEM exhaust, he is in violation of federal restraint of trade laws and is engaging in discriminatory and monopolistic actions. Ask the officer to perform the test, and if he or she refuses, or doesn't have the equipment, you should have grounds for challenging a ticket in court. We have found that in other areas, such as the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, DNR officers do not bother with sound readings, but are heavy on checking riders' alcohol levels. Here the attitude is, "No one died from a loud pipe, but excessive alcohol use is a major contributing factor in deadly accidents." The Michigan attitude is a welcome one, as alcohol related fatal accidents is black mark on our sport and every year attracts much negative press. If law enforcement would concentrate more effort in this area, the trails would be safer and more lives saved. Final word? It is NOT illegal to buy an aftermarket exhaust system that meets the sound standard, and you can still have fun on the snow with your modified sled
  22. limited apparel lots of adult beverages Cat showed everyone a big fat nothing burger but I wasn't there wait, do you mean the grass drags?
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