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once again proving there's no actual 'fight' in you... a totally spineless coward.

Americans should have their heads examined... just for electing people who should probably be in a nursing home instead of the oval office. Age at Inauguration Rank # President Age at Inauguration 1 47 Donald J. Trump 78 years 220 days 2 46 Joe Biden 78 years 61 days 3 45 Donald J. Trump 70 years 220 days 4 40 Ronald Reagan 69 years 348 days 5 9 William Henry Harrison 68 years 23 days 6 15 James Buchanan 65 years 315 days 7 41 George H. W. Bush 64 years 222 days 8 12 Zachary Taylor 64 years 100 days 9 34 Dwight D. Eisenhower 62 years 98 days 10 7 Andrew Jackson 61 years 354 days 11 2 John Adams 61 years 125 days 12 38 Gerald R. Ford 61 years 26 days 13 33 Harry S. Truman 60 years 339 days 14 5 James Monroe 58 years 310 days 15 4 James Madison 57 years 353 days 16 3 Thomas Jefferson 57 years 325 days 17 6 John Quincy Adams 57 years 236 days 18 1 George Washington 57 years 68 days 19 17 Andrew Johnson 56 years 107 days 20 28 Woodrow Wilson 56 years 66 days 21 37 Richard M. Nixon 56 years 11 days 22 24 Grover Cleveland 55 years 351 days 23 23 Benjamin Harrison 55 years 196 days 24 29 Warren G. Harding 55 years 122 days 25 36 Lyndon B. Johnson 55 years 87 days 26 31 Herbert Hoover 54 years 206 days 27 43 George W. Bush 54 years 198 days 28 19 Rutherford B. Hayes 54 years 151 days 29 8 Martin Van Buren 54 years 89 days 30 25 William McKinley 54 years 34 days 31 39 Jimmy Carter 52 years 111 days 32 16 Abraham Lincoln 52 years 20 days 33 21 Chester A. Arthur 51 years 349 days 34 27 William H. Taft 51 years 170 days 35 32 Franklin D. Roosevelt 51 years 33 days 36 30 Calvin Coolidge 51 years 29 days 37 10 John Tyler 51 years 6 days 38 13 Millard Fillmore 50 years 183 days 39 11 James K. Polk 49 years 123 days 40 20 James A. Garfield 49 years 105 days 41 14 Franklin Pierce 48 years 101 days 42 22 Grover Cleveland 47 years 351 days 43 44 Barack Obama 47 years 169 days 44 18 Ulysses S. Grant 46 years 311 days 45 42 Bill Clinton 46 years 154 days 46 35 John F. Kennedy 43 years 236 days 47 26 Theodore Roosevelt 42 years 322 days

kinda funny how we all (Hayward, Cuntz, Deep and myself) have kids roughly the same ages that are going to be handed down all this debt that's been added during our watch. couple of you guys seem pretty good with that and more being added again daily? but 'real conservatives'... gmafb.

Trump Claims ‘No Extension’ To New Tariff Deadline—Here Are The 28 Times He’s Flip-Flopped Since ‘Liberation Day’ July 7 Trump formally extended the deadline for his “Liberation Day” tariffs until Aug. 1, after sending out letters to 14 countries imposing new tariff rates starting that day if they don’t negotiate a trade deal with the Trump administration (flip-flop No. 27). Around the time of the announcement, the president wouldn’t rule out that the deadline could be extended again, however, telling reporters that evening that the Aug. 1 date was “firm, but not 100% firm.” July 8 Trump doubled down on the Aug. 1 date and took a much stronger stance than the day before, writing on Truth Social “there will be no change” to that date and saying, “In other words, all money will be due and payable starting AUGUST 1, 2025 - No extensions will be granted” (flip-flop No. 28). https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/trump-claims-no-extension-to-new-tariff-deadline-here-are-the-28-times-he-s-flip-flopped-since-liberation-day/ar-AA1CQqGd?ocid=BingNewsVerp

it's okay when Trump is doing it, what's so hard to understand about that?

haY, guuD rEEdEr... what does the very first line in the first post here state? Professional gamblers may need to find a new profession.

Can Donald Trump Pay Off the National Debt in 8 Years? Apr 4, 2016 Budgets & Projections In a recent interview, presidential candidate Donald Trump said he would pay off the nation’s $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.” He can’t. The numbers don’t add up. In fact, our estimates of Mr. Trump’s plan so far show debt will instead double to above $38 trillion. Setting aside whether paying down the debt makes economic sense, achieving this goal would be virtually impossible – particularly for a candidate who has proposed large tax cuts and ruled out significant entitlement reforms. Paying off the debt would require unprecedented tax increases, spending cuts, and economic growth. Spending Cuts or Economic Growth Wouldn’t Do It Gross debt (currently $19 trillion) will reach nearly $28 trillion by the end of 2025.2 To save that much money would require cutting all spending by two-thirds or achieving 16 percent real annual economic growth; growth is currently projected to average 2.1 percent. Excluding Social Security – which Mr. Trump has said he would not significantly change – the rest of government would need to be cut by 93 percent. Donald Trump has also proposed over $10 trillion of tax cuts and spending increases through 2025. Incorporating these, spending would have to be cut about 90 percent and the economy would have to grow more than 20 percent per year. Asset Sales Won’t Do It Selling federal assets couldn’t cover this $28 trillion to $38 trillion of costs. According to the Financial Statement of the United State Government, the government holds only $3.1 trillion of assets (excluding stewardship assets and natural resources) – and much of that couldn’t or shouldn’t be sold, at least not for a significant profit. Trade Can’t Do It Nor would Mr. Trump’s suggestion of “renegotiating all of our deals…the big trade deals that we’re doing so badly on” help to pay down the debt. The trade deficit has only an indirect economic relationship with the budget deficit, and outside of some small amount of tariff revenue and modest GDP effects, better trade deals would not significantly impact the national debt. In all likelihood, Trump’s changes to trade policy would reduce rather than enhance growth, according to several economists. Donald Trump’s Policies Won’t Do It – They Will Increase the Debt Ultimately, no plausible set of policies could pay off the debt in eight years; this would require deficit reduction 13 to 18 times as large as what the President has put forward and 4 to 6 times what House Republicans have called for. And neither of these proposals cut net taxes nor take Medicare and Social Security off the table. Rather than pay off the debt, Donald Trump’s policies – as proposed so far – would increase it. Our Rating: False https://www.crfb.org/blogs/can-donald-trump-pay-national-debt-8-years since 2014 he's said he could eliminate the debt, multiple times maybe he can sell some $5M credit cards... or Tariff Americans straight into a recession...

how many of the other key points does MAGA fall short on there? when are we planning to reduce our debt because additional revenue from somewhere (outer space maybe?) in conjunction with reduced spending is the only way it's going to happen. your boy and his 'yes men' just voted for neither of the two... we're not increasing revenue nor are we reducing spending with his BBB. would be interesting to see what the spending side might look like if it were voted upon line by line.

how did we get here?

AI Overview Fiscal conservatism, in the context of American political thought, is a political and economic philosophy focused on fiscal responsibility and limited government intervention in the economy. It generally advocates for policies like tax cuts, reduced government spending, free markets, and deregulation. Key aspects of fiscal conservatism: Limited Government: Fiscal conservatives believe in a smaller government with reduced involvement in the economy and individual lives. Fiscal Responsibility: This includes balancing the budget, reducing national debt, and avoiding excessive government spending. Free Markets: Fiscal conservatives generally favor laissez-faire economics, where the market is largely free from government control. Tax Cuts: They often advocate for lower taxes to stimulate economic activity and individual wealth. Reduced Government Spending: This includes cuts to social welfare programs, government regulations, and other areas of public spending. Privatization: Fiscal conservatives often support transferring government-owned assets and services to the private sector. Free Trade: They generally support free trade agreements and the removal of trade barriers. Historical Context: The term "fiscal conservatism" emerged during the American New Deal era of the 1930s, as some classical liberals began to identify as conservatives to distance themselves from the expanding welfare state and regulatory policies associated with modern liberalism

wtf do we elect these people to do then? Vote once or twice a year? by voting on these f'ng monstrosities it enables them to not be held accountable because I liked this but not that, blah blah blah rather than actually being on the record for each budget item. when did fiscally conservative come with not wanting to pay our outstanding bills either... because we've had decades of that from the 'uniparty'... and it appears to me to be continuing. okay, we've tripled the revenue... federal debt in 2009 was $12.5T and we're currently around $37.1T today. MAGA = not fiscally conservative

and now they're squabblin'... which I find just adorable

every financial line item should be separate and individual and voted upon separately, that might be a good place to start... unlike the big beautiful bill your boy got passed... just like the swamp monsters before him.

which one is that? I saw very little complaining from the self proclaimed conservatives here about piling another $3T+ to our current pile of debt. But don't worry, Tariffs and Tax Cuts will take care of everything, hell... in a couple years we'll probably have a surplus from all that winning!!!

you knew? sure ya did... cap gains/losses have some gray areas people utilize. nope, the few times in my life I've been in a casino it was to eat. I do know one degenerate gambler who used to ask for people's old losing lottery tickets.

how do you feel about being able to deduct your losses in relation to the stock market? Same?

show me that... show me applauding adding more and more debt to the pile when you're done with that. there's like six actual fiscal conservatives here, you might be one of them.

this guy might disagree...

are there any cliffs or tall buildings nearby to you at the moment?

You find it shocking an elected official from Nevada would be concerned about their ATM machines...?

between 2016/2020/2024 436,666,011 votes were cast for Trump, Clinton, Biden and Harris none of which were mine... have at it Elon

no Jimmy Flip Flop... https://www.freedomsledder.com/index.php?/topic/75580-more-winning-for-trump/page/2/#findComment-1878600