mnstang

I get what you're saying I've heard the arguments. "Free money" etc. But there is an intangible value between being in debt and having no debt and actually owning your things and not making monthly payments. That's worth a whole lot more to me than a percentage point or two.

Are there younger buyers? I'd guess over 50% of 800/850 buyers are over 50 years old.

Using that logic, FLY is also buying Cat. I use the term logic loosely.

If you're a scammer, it's the place to go. I have a hard time feeling bad for the people coming on telling everyone how they got scammed, every time there are red flags

I'm sure the oem's would rather everybody finance. Those people generally just care about payments and not the actual cost, as the advertisement demonstrates.

At least he looked cool doing it

Getting pretty quick at this

What Elon is doing with DOGE is a lot bigger than Tesla.

Got most of the parts out of the Jag yesterday. Including 8 gallons of gas and half gallon of oil! Going to put the track on the Prowler this weekend. This Jag was such a score, bought it for the price of a track which I was in need of, and got an entire sled of good parts. This is really the way to do it. Our farm Jag will get a new handlebar so it'll have a working kill switch and thumb warmer again, also the brand new mikuni fuel pump. Puma will get a good recoil as it's rope is a little janky. Prowler will get a better clutch and it's chain and gears. Jag Z will get the EZ adjust caliper, I'm actually super pumped about this. Good running 440 on the shelf sealed up and waiting to be used, and countless other parts and I'm keeping this chassis around for the random parts and hardware you sometimes need in a pinch. The hood and nose cone are good too!

Oh that thing, I can't imagine it'll do anything. It looks like very thin metal, it doesn't have enough strength to do anything. And I imagine it'd be worn down after one ride. I've never seen those, pretty ridiculous. My ZR RS came with a different style ski scratcher. Similar to the normal Cat wire scratcher, but mounted on the ski bolt and hooked up onto the ski when not on use. He said it worked. I don't run scratchers so I took them off and never tried them. I should probably try to sell those now that I think of it.

I have thought before that a major revolution in snowmobiling could be some kind of front braking system that would extend some sort of plunger below the ski that would dig into the snow. I wonder if anyone has ever tested such a thing. I'm sure it'll never happen but it'd be interesting.

I'd try them on and see what fits best. Fly had a new flagship helmet in the last 5 years it's pretty good

I actually met that guy on the trail by my house one day. Didn't know he was on hcs at the time but we figured it out later. That was before he became a whiny cunt about winter. Funny thing he was a very green rider, only been in the sport for a couple of years. Didn't grow up with it. So for a new person to be talking so much crap about the sport, just leave dude. Some people just have a lot of negativity in them.

Never a fan of these junky brand snowmobile helmets. Guys are concerned about safety so much they wear a tek vest but then put any junk brand helmet on their head. Head should be the highest concern, I prefer a quality helmet with actual safety engineered in. Moto helmets have safety but snowmobile industry helmets are just cheap shells with some foam. At least this wasn't a modular helmet. https://www.facebook.com/share/19BiUCX831/

Monthly payment can vary wildly depending on the length of loan, interest rate, down payment. I'd assume with depreciation that most people are upside down after 1-3 years of payments, so I don't know how the lease payment could be less and the OEM still makes money. Obviously there are exception with market changes but that swings the other way too. Also i don't think it'd be a wise plan to charge the hell out of everyone for every little damage found, this industry isn't that big where there's endless customers and it'd be a pr nightmare that wouldn't be worth it on the long run. Also what about the guy that open trailers every weekend, which a lease guy would be the most likely to do. And every hardware piece has corrosion and now the dealer/OEM is stuck with something nobody wants and they have to take a loss. There's a lot of things like that which could happen. It's not as simple as cars, when a car lease gets turned in the salesman takes a walk around the outside and takes a look inside, usually a couple minute process. Tops. As long as maintenance history of a car is done and no physical damage it's good to go. There's a lot more wear and tear parts to a sled that can affect value and make it way more costly to recondition. Imo.

Yes, it is a simple calculation, that isn't disputed. For the OEM to safely make money, the lease payment would have to be so high that nobody would do it. Otherwise, the OEM would offer leases.

They'd have to charge so much for the lease payments to make it work, that nobody would do it. You'd be reliant on the dealers to then sell the 3 year old neglected shit box lease returns. And the market can change so much in 3 years, what if a bad snow year and nobody buying but they factored in selling these lease returns? It's alot simpler with cars.

Will the resident meth drinker ever return? And if so, what do you think will be his excuse for cowardly disappearing?

Not in the market for any newer snowmobile. If I were to buy something.. not sure. I might start looking out for old thundercats. And if the right 95/96 ZR surfaces, you never know.

Oh, I didn't realize that was the first post. Stupid new forum layout not used to it yet.

I'd try for a 500 instead of a 600

That might not buff out. Ouch

I don't think they make this size anymore, but I see them around from time to time. Now they have the cargo max. I like that the tires are under the deck, trailer fits in a lot of places. And it's light I can pick up one side of it. Payload is 1600#. Good company.

Local Craigslist $500. It's sweet, I've dragged many sleds home with it including my RS from IL. Hauled 1500# lime with it several times. It tilts. It has the removable wood sides and back. It's great in the woods behind the ATV. 4x8