Boonbocker1

Curious if you or ACAT thinks they are still adding 5500 sleds to their build next yr? With winter weather like this, not to mention other factors such as economy and interest rates, I can't imagine it would be a good financial decision, can you?

This is thru dairlyland insurance. 1st time I've went thru them but friends have had used them in the past and my agent recommended them as well. In comparison Progressive was $628/ yr for both sleds and Auto owners was 706.38/yr.

Not sure what I'm doing right or wrong but my sled insurance just renewed 2 weeks ago.... 2022 assault 650 was $128/yr 2022 850 vr1 137 was $134.60 **edit** I'm 42 yrs old

This makes zero sense. Ramstad has been very vocal about how cat makes the best utility and sport sxs vehicles and ATV'S and how the catalyst exceeded customer orders so much so they couldn't build enough of them fast enough. Someone's full of shit here...hopefully Jim can come in and clarify how textrons financial team has it all wrong about this and can help them get the ship righted

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/textron-cut-jobs-restructuring-plan-211821022.html

Does it matter how many they sell? They are right up there with arctic cat status of being like a Bugatti or McLaren so I don't think sale numbers really matter to them🤣🤣

These comments caught my attention as I was certain polaris teams won with a baler. A quick search proved so. As far back as 2011 they won with a rush. Pretty certain a baler also won In the years of 2014, 2015 and 2018

So those aren't consumer model sleds that anyone could buy at a dealer? Edit* what makes these models different than a consumer cat 600, engine wise?

I searched marketplace quick...I think i looked at maybe 10 cat 6000 series sleds...found these 4 in a matter of a minute, maybe 2

You honestly don't see the irony that the catalyst front suspension engineer helped develop the iq front suspension for polaris and how cat adopted a similar geometry on the procross? And that cat guys on here always mention how cat introduced dual a arms to the industry 1st yet they adopted a similiar design to poos and even hired poos old suspension engineer? You also do realize alot of the back and fourth is in good fun? And happens from cat guy, poo guy, and doo guys...we all do it.

I watched the suspension video, I found it amusing the front suspension engineer is an ex polaris employee who is on the front suspension patent for the variable caster triangulatd a arm front suspension polaris came out with in 05. He talks about how great it is....oh and how they moved the upper control arm down 2 inches on catalyst.....

This is nothing. Wait until the new sleds that those ex employees developed for cat get into production this fall and get into consumer hands.

looks like another alterra recall was posted this week...

I informed a riding friend that you know of 3-4 yr old 850s for dick..he's interested as long as there female owned. I dont see such a sled in the images you have so far provided. He even said he'd take a 3-4 yr old cat 800 for dick as well....as long as its female owned. He'd be interestd in as many of these sleds for dick as you can find...again, as long as they are female owned

So far you've shown fairly equal priced 600s even tho the polaris has 3 times the miles. And a poo 800 is also roughly the same price as a similiar cat 800. I'm not sure what point your trying to make but you suck at it

So a blown polaris with 6 times the miles is almost the same price as this cat!!??

If that was in Minnesota I'd buy it today. Wonder why he let it overheat and take out the top end tho? Don't try to tell me the top end went and then he wrecked the front hear exchanger.

Where's the 3-4 yr old 850s and cat 800s tho? I just learned a 2019 cat and polaris 600 are roughly the same price used even tho the polaris has 3 times the miles 🤔

Whats a 3-4 yr old cat 800 with 5-6k miles on it bring for comparison? Dick, less than dick, more than dick?

A bit of misleading info in this article.... https://trfnews.i234.me/wordpress/the-evolution-of-arctic-cat-from-humble-beginnings-to-dominating-the-snowmobile-market/?feed_id=91860&_unique_id=6419c048906cf

Its definitely a double edged sword. On 1 hand textron saved cat from almost certain demise under there old leadership and business model. On the other hand, I imagine, that running a recreational powersports business is night and day different than running any other business in textrons portfolio. So what is it that the cat faithful love? The heritage and legacy of the brand? If so, isn't that mostly gone by textrons own doings? Will textron be better at being cat than the old cat was?

You care enough to have brought up polaris 2024 sales. I pointed out to you the enormous MFG task and market shift it would take for cat to outsell polaris for 2024

I'd bet polaris makes and sells more 2024 sleds than cat. Cat would need to over double their build to be where polaris was last yr in terms of volume. Those types of volume shifts don't happen overnight

I've heard multiple times Brian was instrumental in development of what was to be the procross replacement. He wanted arctic cat to retain their performance minded image, textron wanted the procross replacement to gain more sales volume. Brian wasn't happy with what they were making the engineers compromise on for the soon to be catalyst. Many of the the ideas were axed or reimagined for cost. What we now know as the catalyst is not what most of the old cat guard wanted it to become. We'll all know in a year if the old cat guard was able to influence it enough before there departure or if textron got there way on costs and timelines. Most of what made cat great left on thier own or was shown the door. The name on the building isn't what made cat great. You can't buy a name and loose the people and expect it to stay the same...

I'm pretty sure a quick drive belt for a polaris is more expensive than a drive belt as well