Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 28, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Once these new additions to our fighting force in iraq arrive it will push the number of US troops in iraq currently well over 5000. Crazy number for a place that we withdrew from http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINKCN11Y2DU Edited September 28, 2016 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: Once these new additions to our fighting force in iraq will push the number of US troops in iraq currently well over 5000. Crazy number for a place that we withdrew from http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINKCN11Y2DU Just wait...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Once these new additions to our fighting force in iraq will push the number of US troops in iraq currently well over 5000. Crazy number for a place that we withdrew from http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINKCN11Y2DU With no status of forces agreement like Thrillery and her leftard clown imbiciles try to say was somehow required can't make this shit up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 That is a lot of trainers Will every Iraqi get their own personal trainer, like a shadow Program. The media and left are such a joke. If Trump wins the election will they start caring about bringing home the troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Cold War said: That is a lot of trainers Will every Iraqi get their own personal trainer, like a shadow Program. The media and left are such a joke. If Trump wins the election will they start caring about bringing home the troops. Oh....just "advisors" though...it's really the Arabs that are doing the fighting. What a complete joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Have we got Trumps position.....if this shit goes south, I want him held solely responsible for this decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Oh....just "advisors" though...it's really the Arabs that are doing the fighting. What a complete joke. Do people actually buy this shit? I hope they are issued rape whistles in case they get in a jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Cold War said: Do people actually buy this shit? I hope they are issued rape whistles in case they get in a jam. Yes, they do. A LOT OF THEM. The MSM said it and that is that. We're just there as "guides" and for moral support. I thing Vince even claimed that ISIS was on the verge of defeat and it's the Iraqi's doing the fighting. I don't blame him though....he got it from CNN. Or should I blame him? It's all so confusing....but not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Yes, they do. A LOT OF THEM. The MSM said it and that is that. We're just there as "guides" and for moral support. I thing Vince even claimed that ISIS was on the verge of defeat and it's the Iraqi's doing the fighting. I don't blame him though....he got it from CNN. Or should I blame him? It's all so confusing....but not really. The reason for more US advisers is the assault of Mosul is imminent, BTW Mosul is Iraq's second largest city. Oh for those that don't know the 2011 pull out was the Status of Forces Agreement GWB signed with Iraq, we wanted to stay longer but the Iraqi government under PM Maliki would not give US troops immunity from Iraqi law.....just imagine the crying if Obama allowed the Iraqi government to arrest and prosecute American GI's under Iraqi law Anyhow after Maliki stepped down in 2014 and al-Abadi became PM we ironed out an agreement where American GI's have immunity from Iraq law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 28, 2016 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The reason for more US advisers is the assault of Mosul is imminent, BTW Mosul is Iraq's second largest city. Oh for those that don't know the 2011 pull out was the Status of Forces Agreement GWB signed with Iraq, we wanted to stay longer but the Iraqi government under PM Maliki would not give US troops immunity from Iraqi law.....just imagine the crying if Obama allowed the Iraqi government to arrest and prosecute American GI's under Iraqi law Anyhow after Maliki stepped down in 2014 and al-Abadi became PM we ironed out an agreement where American GI's have immunity from Iraq law Why don't they move advisors from the areas that Iraqi's have taken back from ISIS? 5000+ is a lot of troops on the ground there. Why do they need to add 615 more there when before that 600 more get there, We have 4800 already there that could advise for taking back Mosul..... Edited September 28, 2016 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The reason for more US advisers is the assault of Mosul is imminent, BTW Mosul is Iraq's second largest city. Oh for those that don't know the 2011 pull out was the Status of Forces Agreement GWB signed with Iraq, we wanted to stay longer but the Iraqi government under PM Maliki would not give US troops immunity from Iraqi law.....just imagine the crying if Obama allowed the Iraqi government to arrest and prosecute American GI's under Iraqi law Anyhow after Maliki stepped down in 2014 and al-Abadi became PM we ironed out an agreement where American GI's have immunity from Iraq law Great lesson. But you do know what and who our "advisers" are right? How many "advisers" are necessary if they are fighting their own war now? For some reason I think you believe that our "advisers" are a group of people in suits sitting around a war table with sharpies and location pins. I know you don't think that really, but it get's hard for me to believe what is being fed to the masses isn't believed by the majority. Edited September 28, 2016 by Zambroski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Why don't they move advisors from the areas that Iraqi's have taken back from ISIS? 5000+ is a lot of troops on the ground there. Why do they need to add 615 more there when before that 600 more get there, We have 4800 already there that could advise for taking back Mosul..... Mosul is going to be a huge offensive, Fallujah which the Iraqi Army along with US air power and advisers took this past May is a town of 275,000, Mosul is a city of about 750,000 and they figure the offensive will take several months as it will be a block by block slog to recapture the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Great lesson. But you do know what and who our "advisers" are right? How many "advisers" are necessary if they are fighting their own war now? For some reason I think you believe that our "advisers" are a group of people in suits sitting around a war table with sharpies and location pins. I know you don't think that really, but it get's hard for me to believe what is being fed to the masses isn't believed by the majority. It's US FAC's along with US command and control on the ground, yes US troops will be at the battalion level and will be subject to combat, it's what we need to do to defeat ISIS. If you really think about it...the patriotic thing for Trump to do right now is to tell the generals right now what his plan is to defeat ISIS, why leave US troops and the civilian population exposed to the the threat of ISIS longer than necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: Mosul is going to be a huge offensive, Fallujah which the Iraqi Army along with US air power and advisers took this past May is a town of 275,000, Mosul is a city of about 750,000 and they figure the offensive will take several months as it will be a block by block slog to recapture the city. This isn't really making sense to me because this doesn't typically work out well. Are you saying this, or did you get it off of a "news" source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: It's US FAC's along with US command and control on the ground, yes US troops will be at the battalion level and will be subject to combat, it's what we need to do to defeat ISIS. If you really think about it...the patriotic thing for Trump to do right now is to tell the generals right now what his plan is to defeat ISIS, why leave US troops and the civilian population exposed to the the threat of ISIS longer than necessary? Trump or any political talking head should not be involved with any part of the plan other than giving his "OK". This is where politicians get things mucked up and more people get killed than necessary. Trump needs to find the right military minds and leadership though.....few are left after the Obama "purge". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zambroski said: This isn't really making sense to me because this doesn't typically work out well. Are you saying this, or did you get it off of a "news" source? The Third Battle of Fallujah population 275,000 took 5 weeks to recapture, Mosul is three times the size of Fallujah I'm sure are folks who do this for a living know what to expect and what the time frame is. As seen gleaned from Fox News Quote ISIS builds 'hell on earth' around itself in Mosul, US military says http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/23/isis-digging-trenches-preparing-for-hell-on-earth-in-mosul-us-military-says.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 With no status of forces agreement more Barry lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Yeah!!!! Can I get freedom fries with that ? Holy shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 We're not on the same page. You are trying to make an argument that doesn't exist from news articles and cut and pastes in some type of way to make yourself militarily knowledgeable. It's not working. And you are making the argument with the wrong person who knows more than just a little something about "advising". I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Someone remember to take their fucking oil this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 29, 2016 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 29, 2016 wonder what all this cost the US tax payer.... US involvement currently prior to the announce additional troops we are putting on the ground. United States:[hide] 4,850 troops[46][47][47][48] 7,000 contractors[49][50] USS George H.W. Bushcarrier strike group USS Carl Vinson carrier strike group (replaced USS George H.W. Bush in late October)[51] USS Theodore Rooseveltcarrier strike group (replaced USS Carl Vinson in late March)[52][53] F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon, F/A-18 Hornet, F/A-18 Super Hornet, AV-8B Harrier[54] and F-22 Raptorfighter jets[55] B-1 Lancer bomber aircraft[56] EA-6B Prowler & EA-18G Growler electronic warfare aircraft. Boeing AH-64 Apache attack helicopters[57] MQ-1 Predator, MQ-9 Reaper drones[58][59] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Get some cases of root beer schnapps.....we're taking Mosul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mileage Psycho Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 20 minutes ago, Zambroski said: We're not on the same page. You are trying to make an argument that doesn't exist from news articles and cut and pastes in some type of way to make yourself militarily knowledgeable. It's not working. And you are making the argument with the wrong person who knows more than just a little something about "advising". I'm out. That's obvious seeing how you struggle to understand any of this. God help whoever you are "advising" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: That's obvious seeing how you struggle to understand any of this. God help whoever you are "advising" I'm not struggling to understand any of it. I can read and comprehend just fine. Stop cutting articles from sites in an effort to make yourself seem "well read" in military strategy. You are acting like a fucking hack. And the real truth of it is, you have no idea what any of it truly means or entails. Good grief. "The Real Deal". Not so much. Edited September 29, 2016 by Zambroski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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