motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: No. Nice spin on that tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: No. Nice spin on that tho. And you illustrate perfectly why debating fascism is a fool's errand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 When demonstrable scientific fact is called 'spin', fascists are near. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: And you illustrate perfectly why debating fascism is a fool's errand. Just from your point of view though. So....I'm good. I know, I know....I've got an appointment with the WALL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 9, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 45 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Give me a third of your life or starve... Of course nobody makes a good enough living to enjoy snowmobiling, or fishing, or hunting or have smart phones or large flat screen tv's or hot tubs or cars, trucks, atv's or pot, or alcohol or smokes........ Edited November 9, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 You still have to work in a moto utopia but thats ok because.......??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, MiSledder said: You still have to work in a moto utopia but thats ok because.......??? Exactly, instead of working only 1/3 of your life for your boss, you will work all of your life for ???? and for what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, MiSledder said: You still have to work in a moto utopia but thats ok because.......??? You would want to work, but you wouldn't have to. 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Exactly, instead of working only 1/3 of your life for your boss, you will work all of your life for ???? and for what exactly? False dichotomy. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: You would want to work, but you wouldn't have to. False dichotomy. Next. Why don't you explain it? What enjoyment do you have in your society? Edited November 9, 2017 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Highmark said: Of course nobody makes a good enough living to enjoy snowmobiling, or fishing, or hunting or have smart phones or large flat screen tv's or hot tubs or cars, trucks, atv's or pot, or alcohol or smokes........ You have a cellphone, you can't be mad that capitalist oligarchs run your government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: You would want to work, but you wouldn't have to. False dichotomy. Next. Why would I want to work? Ill have everything the working people have so whats the motivation to get going? And "ill want to" isnt an answer, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Why don't you explain it? What "fun" do you have in your society? What's the use? Explaining anarchism to fascists is like explaining physics to monkeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: You have a cellphone, you can't be mad that capitalist oligarchs run your government. You have a cell phone and re mad as hell at the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, MiSledder said: Why would I want to work? Ill have everything the working people have so whats the motivation to get going? And "ill want to" isnt an answer, I've made extensive posts about how monetary motivations for workers don't actually work that well. But you ignore it and continue to ask these same inane questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: What's the use? Explaining anarchism to fascists is like explaining physics to monkeys Because its a fairytale system only the lazy subscribe too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: What's the use? Explaining anarchism to fascists is like explaining physics to monkeys There it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: I've made extensive posts about how monetary motivations for workers don't actually work that well. But you ignore it and continue to ask these same inane questions. Ive read your gibberish, It ignores basic human instinct and doesnt address the takers with their hand out logically or realistically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: What's the use? Explaining anarchism to fascists is like explaining physics to monkeys Ahhh....yes! "Everybody is a racist monkey...and I'm a righteous physicist!" I"m getting my monkey freedom pants on now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 :WARNING: Incoming memes no one will read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, MiSledder said: Ive read your gibberish, It ignores basic human instinct and doesnt address the takers with their hand out logically or realistically No, you fail to recognize that cooperation is a basic human instinct. Especially when there is no scarcity of resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: No, you fail to recognize that cooperation is a basic human instinct. Especially when there is no scarcity of resources. How do you deal with the non cooperatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Can you just answer as too how much work you do in your society? Is it 1/2, 1/3, or all of your life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, MiSledder said: How do you deal with the non cooperatives? I've asked him this before. Along with what happens to those that want to better themselves or are "exceptional" and refuse to be mediocre with the masses within his new world utopia. I got a plethora of memes. But I got his answer...this guy had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 If you can't produce surplus value with your labor for capitalists to steal, you are worthless to society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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